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Re:I Got Access to My Secret Consumer Score by badrabbit on Monday November 04, 2019 @06:32AM (#21440662)
Would someone with access mind saving us a click due to reg/pay wall?
Re:I Got Access to My Secret Consumer Score by philmcc on Monday November 04, 2019 @06:38AM (#21440703)
Sure, five companies you can reach out to and ask for your consumer trustworthiness records

- [email protected]

- [email protected].

- [email protected].

- [email protected].

- https://zetaglobal.com/ is a form.

Re:I Got Access to My Secret Consumer Score by 9HZZRfNlpR on Monday November 04, 2019 @06:49AM (#21440772)
How do they verify you or how does it work in America? You don't have national ID card to do identification online.
Re:I Got Access to My Secret Consumer Score by willart4food on Monday November 04, 2019 @06:53AM (#21440793)
> There are many companies in the business of scoring consumers. The challenge is to identify them. Once you do, the instructions on getting your data will probably be buried in their privacy policies. Ctrl-F “request” is a good way to find it. Most of these companies will also require you to send a photo of your driver’s license to verify your identity. Here are five that say they’ll share the data they have on you.
Re:I Got Access to My Secret Consumer Score by rags2riches on Monday November 04, 2019 @07:13AM (#21440882)
1. List your new consumer scoring company and an address for requesting your personal records.

2. Collect personal data supplied as verification for personal record requests.

3. Send personal record requests to other companies holding actual consumer data.

4. You are now in business, ready to sell consumer data!

Re:I Got Access to My Secret Consumer Score by dmurray on Monday November 04, 2019 @07:58AM (#21441174)
Not a great business plan as yet - "Zeta Global [...] told me that 10 people have requested their data so far" - but maybe you can be a first mover here.
Re:I Got Access to My Secret Consumer Score by sk5t on Monday November 04, 2019 @01:32PM (#21444739)
That number might not move if Zeta's form never sends the confirmation email, which, thus far, seems to be the case.
Re:I Got Access to My Secret Consumer Score by lotsofpulp on Monday November 04, 2019 @06:54AM (#21440798)
Billing address for credit cards, email address for online accounts, use of rewards programs that have rewards accounts tied to the buyers, and phone numbers which are tied to a single person most times nowadays.
Re:I Got Access to My Secret Consumer Score by lioeters on Monday November 04, 2019 @06:53AM (#21440796)
Thank you for the summary.

On another note, those are some shady-sounding business names! [email protected] indeed..

Re:I Got Access to My Secret Consumer Score by thaumasiotes on Monday November 04, 2019 @07:15AM (#21440893)
> On another note, those are some shady-sounding business names! [email protected] indeed..

Trademark law probably deserves some blame here; it's harder to trademark a word than a non-word.

Re:I Got Access to My Secret Consumer Score by high_derivative on Monday November 04, 2019 @07:12AM (#21440877)
So can Europeans send a GDRP right-to-be-forgotten request to all of these?
Re:I Got Access to My Secret Consumer Score by jacquesm on Monday November 04, 2019 @08:07AM (#21441243)
That's two different things. And it's GDPR.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_to_be_forgotten

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Data_Protection_Regula...

But the GDPR does have the 'right to erasure' which replaces the 'right to be forgotten'.

Re:I Got Access to My Secret Consumer Score by VBprogrammer on Monday November 04, 2019 @07:52AM (#21441127)
I don't believe the right to be forgotten here is at all relevant. It only covers the indexing of data. For example if I commit a crime a media organisation will write a story about it, google will index it, after a number of years I have the right to ask google to unlink those stories, however I don't believe it covers removal of the original story.

Certainly it's hard to believe some of this would be completely compatible with the GDPR. Perhaps you could make the argument that there is a legitimate business need to prevent fraud but from what's included in the article the data goes far beyond what anyone would consider minimal.

Re:I Got Access to My Secret Consumer Score by GoToRO on Monday November 04, 2019 @07:17AM (#21440909)
don't take my word for it, but I believe that you can only if they have opened a subsidiary in EU. The fine is percent of global sales (not profit).
Re:I Got Access to My Secret Consumer Score by jacquesm on Monday November 04, 2019 @08:08AM (#21441250)
> don't take my word for it

We definitely should not. You are wrong. In that case you are supposed to have to appoint a local representative, see Article 27.

Re:I Got Access to My Secret Consumer Score by toong on Monday November 04, 2019 @07:29AM (#21440972)
I believe that statement is incorrect :-)
Re:I Got Access to My Secret Consumer Score by mattlondon on Monday November 04, 2019 @07:48AM (#21441101)
As far as I understand it, if they are processing EU citizens' data then they are liable for GDPR regardless of where they run their business from.

https://www.techrepublic.com/article/the-eu-general-data-pro...

Re:I Got Access to My Secret Consumer Score by GoToRO on Monday November 04, 2019 @08:10AM (#21441262)
Then I'm curious how do they enforce it. Maybe with US there are some treaties signed, but what about a foreign country that has no treaties with the EU?
Re:I Got Access to My Secret Consumer Score by volkl48 on Monday November 04, 2019 @10:26AM (#21442465)
To date, the answer to that question appears to be: Sternly worded letters, which will be promptly ignored.

There's no actual enforcement mechanisms against an entity that does not exist in the EU and has no financial exposure to it. That includes with the US, as far as I can tell.

Re:I Got Access to My Secret Consumer Score by mschuster91 on Monday November 04, 2019 @08:34AM (#21441453)
Go for the payment processors - seize any funds destined for the target company, for example.
Re:I Got Access to My Secret Consumer Score by AllegedAlec on Monday November 04, 2019 @06:38AM (#21440705)
It's basically a credit score type of deal that companies use to assess your trustworthiness. Due to some new Californian law, companies that aggregate these scores now have to give you the data on you that they have when you ask them for it.
Re:I Got Access to My Secret Consumer Score by dexterdog on Monday November 04, 2019 @06:46AM (#21440758)
That law is CCPA, but it isn't in effect until Jan 1.
Re:I Got Access to My Secret Consumer Score by walterstucco666 on Monday November 04, 2019 @06:38AM (#21440711)
Re:I Got Access to My Secret Consumer Score by AllegedAlec on Monday November 04, 2019 @06:38AM (#21440712)
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Re:I Got Access to My Secret Consumer Score by brookside on Monday November 04, 2019 @08:16AM (#21441307)
Journalism is valuable, and it is a publication's decision to decide on how to pay for that journalistic work.

I'm not ok with copying and pasting paywalled news articles verbatim on HN.

Re:I Got Access to My Secret Consumer Score by neotek on Monday November 04, 2019 @06:51PM (#21448087)
Well I am. If you need to paywall your content, paywall it properly, don't just slap a semi-opaque div over the top of it and beg for my email address.