Re:Groovy/Grails vs. Ruby/Rails vs. Python/(something)?
by zaphod on Friday May 11, 2007 @04:58PM
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Take this with a grain of salt, as I haven't tried Groovy/Grails, but in my experience several of the other rails knockoffs were the genuine Rolix's of the framework world.
Rails is not perfect, but ruby and leadership by innovators who think a little different made it what it is. Will you see that in me-too frameworks? Will they ever do more than copy ideas and stay a step behind?
Plus, the difference between a dynamic language and java is something like the difference between travelling at light-speed, vs. faster than light. In Java you travel (code) in a straight line. In Rails or a dynamic language, you can fold space-time so the destination point is only a few lines of code from where you are now. Cleverness gives you more leverage in a dynamic language. ROR is solid enough, and Jruby can run rails now.
Re:Groovy/Grails vs. Ruby/Rails vs. Python/(something)?
by edgeztv on Friday May 11, 2007 @05:02PM
(#21440)
Actually, Groovy isn't Java - it's a dynamic "scripting" language that runs on the Java virtual machine (just like JRuby or Jython) - precisely the reason why I want to try it :)
Rails is not perfect, but ruby and leadership by innovators who think a little different made it what it is. Will you see that in me-too frameworks? Will they ever do more than copy ideas and stay a step behind?
Plus, the difference between a dynamic language and java is something like the difference between travelling at light-speed, vs. faster than light. In Java you travel (code) in a straight line. In Rails or a dynamic language, you can fold space-time so the destination point is only a few lines of code from where you are now. Cleverness gives you more leverage in a dynamic language. ROR is solid enough, and Jruby can run rails now.
Eric