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Re:Electron apps cannot be submitted to the Apple store by kjksf on Sunday November 03, 2019 @07:05PM (#21437710)
"use or conceal"

"use"

If this was "don't conceal or we'll ban you for life", it would be somewhat understandable.

But it's "use or we'll ban you for life" which is just insane. Apple is at the height of their arrogance towards developers.

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Re:Electron apps cannot be submitted to the Apple store by threeseed on Sunday November 03, 2019 @07:35PM (#21437895)
This policy has been there since the beginning of the App Store.

If you use a private API they will reject the app. If you try and hide the fact you are using private APIs after has told you to stop then they will ban you.

It's all very common sense and not arrogant at all.

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Re:Electron apps cannot be submitted to the Apple store by heavyset_go on Sunday November 03, 2019 @08:42PM (#21438260)
> Apple is at the height of their arrogance towards developers.

Yep. I've migrated away from macOS after using it for a decade over to Linux, and the developer experience is first class.

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Re:Electron apps cannot be submitted to the Apple store by jolux on Monday November 04, 2019 @12:46AM (#21439309)
is it possible to write a GUI app that looks native in all common desktop environments yet?
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Re:Electron apps cannot be submitted to the Apple store by saagarjha on Monday November 04, 2019 @01:50AM (#21439477)
Sure, if you write the GUI portions in the native toolkit and factor out the backend into your cross-platform language of choice.
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Re:Electron apps cannot be submitted to the Apple store by jolux on Monday November 04, 2019 @05:26PM (#21447265)
I would argue that's not really a "first-class" developer experience from the perspective of developing for Apple products on a Mac.
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Re:Electron apps cannot be submitted to the Apple store by saagarjha on Monday November 04, 2019 @06:31PM (#21447915)
The "first class" experience for developing on a Mac would be to develop only for the Mac. If you're not doing that, your job is going to be a bit more difficult.
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Re:Electron apps cannot be submitted to the Apple store by jolux on Monday November 04, 2019 @07:35PM (#21448410)
Yes, I'm aware. But it's a bit weird to say the developer experience on Linux is first-class. For things that don't have a GUI, sure. But that's not what the discussion was about.
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Re:Electron apps cannot be submitted to the Apple store by Gibbon1 on Monday November 04, 2019 @07:40PM (#21448445)
I remember watching the linux communities response to the mono project and realizing it was sort of hopeless.
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Re:Electron apps cannot be submitted to the Apple store by heavyset_go on Tuesday November 05, 2019 @10:25AM (#21453150)
Qt works well for me, as well as Tcl/Tk.
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Re:Electron apps cannot be submitted to the Apple store by dvdkhlng on Monday November 04, 2019 @03:12AM (#21439784)
Qt?
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Re:Electron apps cannot be submitted to the Apple store by jolux on Monday November 04, 2019 @05:25PM (#21447255)
That won't really look native, will it? I thought Qt things looked like Qt things.
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Re:Electron apps cannot be submitted to the Apple store by dvdkhlng on Tuesday November 05, 2019 @04:14AM (#21450848)
As far as my experience goes, it looks pretty native on Windows. Looking at the documentation [0] it also seems to strive for mac-OS native look and feel.

[0] https://doc.qt.io/qt-5/macos-issues.html

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Re:Electron apps cannot be submitted to the Apple store by DagAgren on Monday November 04, 2019 @05:05AM (#21440246)
This is just a phrasing of a sentence in a mail. It does not define either what reasons they are allowed to ban you for, nor does it define what reasons they will use to ban you.

They are allowed to ban you for literally any reason. What matters is what they do, not the exact phrasing in a random email.

And in practice, they will ban you if you actively try to skirt their rules after they tell you to cut it out.

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