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Re:Gitlab considers not hiring SREs and Support Engineers in... by zwayhowder on Sunday November 03, 2019 @06:16PM (#21437448)
It does block them from moving to that country. So if a current employee was planning to move to either country soon they'd be prevented from doing that.

I've danced this dance at a previous company when we had an employee working from a country of interest for an extended period of time. They were air-gapped from our systems and it worked because they submitted everything by pull requests (the original way, sending git patches by email). They didn't have access to our CRM or any customer systems because several of our contracts - not just with governments but also major multinationals - prevented employees in certain countries from having access.

Even when I traveled to the same country I used a burner laptop that was decommissioned when I returned. When we EOL'd laptops in the office they'd go in the burner pile to have one last holiday abroad before they were wiped again and sent to a local charity.

Re:Gitlab considers not hiring SREs and Support Engineers in... by 3pt14159 on Sunday November 03, 2019 @09:53PM (#21438618)
I've done some travelling to risky places before (Kiev and other places) and even though the networks were hostile there, I still don't understand the point of pretending that Russia et al can't get into Gitlab whenever they want to. They can. Air-gapping isn't going to slow them down.
Re:Gitlab considers not hiring SREs and Support Engineers in... by peteretep on Sunday November 03, 2019 @11:16PM (#21438996)
> I still don't understand the point of pretending that Russia et al can't get into Gitlab whenever they want to

Security isn’t absolute, it’s layered. The harder you make it for the adversary, the more it costs the adversary (eg: potentially burning a zero day), and the more chance there is of detection.

Can Russian intelligence get into Gitlab? Probably. Are measures that make it more expensive liable to deter them? I think so.

Re:Gitlab considers not hiring SREs and Support Engineers in... by mike_d on Monday November 04, 2019 @02:06AM (#21439524)
> They can. Air-gapping isn't going to slow them down.

Two points here. First of all, failing to acheive absolute security is not a justification for ignoring best practices.

Second, this isn't air gapping. It is preventing a bugged laptop from sitting in on conference calls and meetings for the next year or two until it gets aged out.

Re:Gitlab considers not hiring SREs and Support Engineers in... by joatmon-snoo on Sunday November 03, 2019 @11:58PM (#21439151)
As the subject of this thread also points out, there's an important factor of risk to the individual: to prevent them from getting put in a position where they can be coerced into turning over data access.
Re:Gitlab considers not hiring SREs and Support Engineers in... by iiertiosas on Sunday November 03, 2019 @11:01PM (#21438925)
Or just bribing people in “allowed” countries.
Re:Gitlab considers not hiring SREs and Support Engineers in... by jrockway on Monday November 04, 2019 @05:16AM (#21440295)
I think it would probably be costly to bribe someone in the "allowed" countries. I'm not going to risk going to prison for some small sum of money, and a large sum of money is logistically difficult to give me. People will ask questions, the scheme will probably be found out.

Meanwhile, if the government can just arrest you and say "change this repository and you go free", it's essentially free.

Re:Gitlab considers not hiring SREs and Support Engineers in... by zonidjan on Sunday November 03, 2019 @08:43PM (#21438264)
All the people who are saying they've never seen a contract with a term like this, I'm just sitting here wondering how my experience is the opposite...
Re:Gitlab considers not hiring SREs and Support Engineers in... by dredmorbius on Sunday November 03, 2019 @06:42PM (#21437591)
Or into affected roles.

So, someone in, say, QA or documentation, looking to head into SRE or Support, would be unable to if they presently reside in China or Russia.

Re:Gitlab considers not hiring SREs and Support Engineers in... by Supermancho on Sunday November 03, 2019 @10:15PM (#21438733)
> they'd be prevented from doing that.

Their employment being dependent on them residing within specific locales is not the same as "prevention". It's an incentive scheme, afaik.