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Re:Hilda Geiringer Reshaped Mathematics by whatshisface on Friday November 01, 2019 @10:35AM (#21419280)
There is no number of specific stories that should convince anyone, unless there is also some indication that they are being evenly sampled! You would have to compare all of the stories of men who were denied appointments to make a conclusion. To get a probability from a count, you have to divide by something.
Re:Hilda Geiringer Reshaped Mathematics by Voloskaya on Friday November 01, 2019 @11:30AM (#21419837)
I mean, isn't the fact that there were virtually no women in academia back in the time a convincing enough proof in itself that there was, indeed, discrimination?
Re:Hilda Geiringer Reshaped Mathematics by whatshisface on Friday November 01, 2019 @11:52AM (#21420104)
Discrimination on the part of gatekeepers isn't the only thing that can keep minorities out. A culture that tells them not to try doing it because it isn't their assigned role, a fear of being the only one of their group among a majority of another group, and earlier discrimination that prevents them from getting qualifications but isn't the fault of the gatekeeper could all be responsible. Given the information I know and what has been brought up in this discussion, University mathematicians could have been perfectly willing to hire women.
Re:Hilda Geiringer Reshaped Mathematics by Voloskaya on Friday November 01, 2019 @12:20PM (#21420502)
This is just the good old pipeline fallacy all over again.
Re:Hilda Geiringer Reshaped Mathematics by Udik on Friday November 01, 2019 @05:41PM (#21424001)
The fact you like to call it fallacy doesn't make it one.