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Re:The Fantasy of Opting Out by antocv on Friday November 01, 2019 @06:03AM (#21417358)
> What is it that you want to do that these technologies are preventing you from doing

Organizing tea parties without being surveilled and oppressed?

Inviting friends to a meeting, without tech giants knowing about it, and taking actions against said meeting.

Re:The Fantasy of Opting Out by imgabe on Friday November 01, 2019 @06:11AM (#21417384)
Which actions are tech giants taking against people organizing meetings?

Does Google have a goon squad that is busting people's doors down and breaking up meetings? It seems like something like that would be in the news somewhere.

Re:The Fantasy of Opting Out by antocv on Friday November 01, 2019 @09:11AM (#21418318)
> Which actions are tech giants taking against people organizing meetings?

Feeding the data straight to NSA, which then feeds FBI, which then crashes the party with pepper spray and dogs. Sometimes the Feds can send under-cover agents to join the party, then stirr dissent and division.

See Occupy Wallstreet.

Another example is, tech giants forbid/censor messages (try sending a torrent link with wikileaks data in it to your friends), making your party so small you think no-body is actually interested. But the message is just silently dropped. Spooky eh.

Re:The Fantasy of Opting Out by vincnetas on Friday November 01, 2019 @06:59AM (#21417594)
it's a bit like global warming probably. untill it has no obvious effect. but it's too late to do something when goon squad is already knocking.