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Re:Rob Pike on the reasons for Go’s success by ncmncm on Thursday October 31, 2019 @07:56PM (#21415032)
If "marketing" means anything, it means money buying influence, independent of actual users. It might be spent on press, "analyst" puffery, huge library developments, book projects, and lavish conferences, as Sun did for Java.

Money spent developing compilers and libraries to sell at a profit is not marketing, even if the compiler is marketed: that money comes from users already committed.

C didn't need marketing. It rode on Unix, which also got hardly any. Unix rode on workstations, which had to be marketed hard against all the minicomputer and, later, mainframe competition.

C++ got no marketing either. It still has none, yet the number of C++ programmers is growing faster than ever before. Complaining about it is always popular, but as Bjarne says, there are only two kinds of language : the ones people complain about, and the ones no one uses.

Go may be counted a success when it is complained about as much as C++ or Python.

Re:Rob Pike on the reasons for Go’s success by pjmlp on Friday November 01, 2019 @04:12AM (#21416989)
C had free marketing from universities taking an OS for a symbolic price, with source code available, instead of having to pay for something like VMS.

C++ had plenty of marketing, being adopted by all major C compiler vendors, it was adopted by the GUI frameworks used by Apple, IBM, Microsoft, alongside Borland, Zortech, Symantec, Watcom, Microwerks.

Plenty of marketing they had.

Re:Rob Pike on the reasons for Go’s success by ncmncm on Friday November 01, 2019 @01:38PM (#21421577)
Again: If "marketing" means anything, it means money buying influence, independent of actual users.

I.e., no marketing, just actual use and companies responding to actual use: The diametric opposite of marketing.

Re:Rob Pike on the reasons for Go’s success by pjmlp on Friday November 01, 2019 @01:57PM (#21421839)
"A Dictionary of Marketing", have a good read.

https://www.oxfordreference.com/view/10.1093/acref/978019959...