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Re:Knative = Kubernetes Networking++ by shaklee3 on Thursday October 31, 2019 @12:26AM (#21405745)
>The disadvantage is that you have to manually add an Envoy container and minimal config to everything you run, which people apparently hate.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think envoy (or istio, at least), uses a mutable admission webhook to inject the sidecar into your pod. This means you never have to enter anything into your pod spec.

Edit: I noticed you pointed this out with istio.

Re:Knative = Kubernetes Networking++ by jrockway on Thursday October 31, 2019 @04:24AM (#21406700)
Yeah, Istio is the Kubernetes glue for Envoy. Envoy is just a proxy; it can exist without Kubernetes and as far as I know, knows nothing about it.