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Re:The SpaceX Starship is a big deal by AtlasBarfed on Wednesday October 30, 2019 @02:06PM (#21400652)
Once we get this lifting capacity, to me the big win is that we can build and launch Orion ships on the moon. None of the fallout risk if launched from there, or rockets can lift the ship out of the gravity well of the earth.

Once you have orions, you can move a lot of heavy stuff quickly around the solar system. Orions can probably go interstellar if we fire off fuel pellets for them to catch up to, or can somehow doe antimatter catalyzed fission/fusion.

Re:The SpaceX Starship is a big deal by Tuna-Fish on Wednesday October 30, 2019 @03:44PM (#21401724)
Once you have that lifting capacity, Orion drives are probably a bad idea.

Orion drives are great if you just consider performance, but not cost. It gets it's great ISP and thrust at the cost of being very inefficient in it's use of fissiles. If you can lift propellant into orbit at the cost SpaceX is projecting, for any in-system work it is more economical to use much less flashy nuclear thermal rockets with much worse ISP, because the propellant is cheaper than the fissiles.

Re:The SpaceX Starship is a big deal by DuskStar on Wednesday October 30, 2019 @04:40PM (#21402417)
And if you are willing to throw out the fissiles, why not a Nuclear Salt Water Rocket? [0] (warning: engineering realities may make this impossible) (one of a very short list of possibilities for a buildable-within-a-century torchship)

Other downsides include "using it for take-offs will leave a large crater that will glow blue for several hundred million years, as will everything downwind in the fallout area", but who really cares about takeoff areas? (That's for the silly plebs left behind on the ground to worry about - you're headed to SPACE!)

0: http://www.projectrho.com/public_html/rocket/enginelist2.php...

Re:The SpaceX Starship is a big deal by greedo on Wednesday October 30, 2019 @04:03PM (#21401928)
Would you need to launch them from the Moon? Why not build and launch from space?