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Re:Key Change by bdz on Tuesday October 29, 2019 @05:54PM (#21392499)
There are "next gen" ROP cheats for FPS games including CS:GO https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21355058

The main problem is that VAC can be better but not without elevated privileges aka borderline rootkit and that's not gonna happen

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Re:Key Change by invokestatic on Tuesday October 29, 2019 @07:17PM (#21393112)
I used to develop cheats for CSGO (I work in anti-cheat now). The ROP chain cheat is 100% detectable right now with VAC without rootkits or the like. No cheat is “VAC-proof”. I have seen Valve’s creativity at responding to evolving threats. It’s just a matter of time.
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Re:Key Change by mhh__ on Tuesday October 29, 2019 @10:07PM (#21394020)
Could you explain how?
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Re:Key Change by willis936 on Tuesday October 29, 2019 @06:20PM (#21392734)
Most anticheats are rootkits (see: kernel mode drivers). VAC’s tricks are behavioral detection of cheats and that’s the best approach imo. Trust factor is the real genius. Just put all of the toxic players and potential cheaters together.
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