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Re:DuckDuckGo Terminal Interface by jhoechtl on Tuesday October 29, 2019 @03:47AM (#21384926)
I liked DDG a lot .. but when I discovered that it is effectively an UI over Bing (Yahoo?), I am a lot less impressed.

Is there any search engine which is NOT backed by an extremely heavyweight player?

Re:DuckDuckGo Terminal Interface by laumars on Tuesday October 29, 2019 @06:30AM (#21385608)
This comment is made a lot but it's only half true. DDG does use Bing to source some of it's results but it does have it's own crawlers too. In practice this means that it isn't "effectively a UI over Bing".
Re:DuckDuckGo Terminal Interface by sepeek on Wednesday October 30, 2019 @12:48AM (#21394760)
Here's an old but interesting SO post that if true would indicate otherwise https://stackoverflow.com/a/24089393
Re:DuckDuckGo Terminal Interface by nemasu on Tuesday October 29, 2019 @04:26AM (#21385094)
Seems people can't find your source, so I did some digging and found this:

"We also of course have more traditional links in the search results, which we also source from a variety of partners, including Verizon Media (formerly Yahoo) and Bing."[0]

[0]https://help.duckduckgo.com/duckduckgo-help-pages/results/so...

Re:DuckDuckGo Terminal Interface by mda on Tuesday October 29, 2019 @04:57AM (#21385211)
But what percentage of it comes from which partner? They never say this.
Re:DuckDuckGo Terminal Interface by hnarn on Tuesday October 29, 2019 @04:59AM (#21385221)
And more importantly, what percentage does not come from any partner.
Re:DuckDuckGo Terminal Interface by Vinnl on Tuesday October 29, 2019 @06:35AM (#21385628)
...so the order of results is still determined by DDG, right?
Re:DuckDuckGo Terminal Interface by rkangel on Tuesday October 29, 2019 @06:58AM (#21385738)
As siblings have covered - it is a proxy for some search results.

That's ok though - a privacy respecting proxy to a decent search engine is a useful thing. You get all the search results and they don't get to track you.

Re:DuckDuckGo Terminal Interface by hnarn on Tuesday October 29, 2019 @04:05AM (#21385012)
Your claim desperately needs a citation.
Re:DuckDuckGo Terminal Interface by mda on Tuesday October 29, 2019 @05:10AM (#21385261)
Logic. Creating and maintaining a half decent search engine requires a billion dollar worth of infrastructure and talent. They have neither.
Re:DuckDuckGo Terminal Interface by sveme on Tuesday October 29, 2019 @08:00AM (#21386128)
That's circular. They don't have it because they could not?

Alas, it's using bing as one source, it's more than just a proxy to bing. And they seem to have their own crawler as well.

Re:DuckDuckGo Terminal Interface by sct202 on Tuesday October 29, 2019 @02:32PM (#21390540)
I don't think I've ever seen DDG show up in my logs, and I found this article from a web host that listed out their top crawler traffic and DDG doesn't even register (but something called Sogou is): https://deviceatlas.com/blog/most-active-bots-and-crawlers-w...

It might be that DDG sticks to the to X thousand sites or something like that, so I would imagine that Bing must be providing the majority of the index, but maybe not for more popular queries.

Re:DuckDuckGo Terminal Interface by okraszo on Tuesday October 29, 2019 @03:55AM (#21384968)
Where did you find information it is really a "proxy" to Bing? I couldn't find such information.

BTW, there is also similar private search that proxies queries to google - https://www.startpage.com/

Re:DuckDuckGo Terminal Interface by mkl on Tuesday October 29, 2019 @06:52AM (#21385693)
Re:DuckDuckGo Terminal Interface by microcolonel on Tuesday October 29, 2019 @09:11AM (#21386688)
They also use Yandex, I don't see the problem exactly.

> Is there any search engine which is NOT backed by an extremely heavyweight player?

Global search of most web pages worth finding is a heavyweight task.

Re:DuckDuckGo Terminal Interface by s5ma6n on Tuesday October 29, 2019 @04:50AM (#21385177)
Are you sure you are not confusing DDG with Ecosia? Ecosia is also an UI to Bing.
Re:DuckDuckGo Terminal Interface by mda on Tuesday October 29, 2019 @05:03AM (#21385236)
My guess is DDG mostly depends on bing technology, at least for anything that is non trivial. There is a lot of smoke and mirrors on what actually DDG is, i would be happy to learn about details of their deals, technology, etc.
Re:DuckDuckGo Terminal Interface by gandalfian on Tuesday October 29, 2019 @06:57AM (#21385726)
A service that combined yandex and google would probably cancel out most of the worlds censorship. I'm not sure where you would be allowed to run such a service from though...
Re:DuckDuckGo Terminal Interface by jhoechtl on Tuesday October 29, 2019 @08:14AM (#21386245)
In Russia DDG uses Yandex
Re:DuckDuckGo Terminal Interface by tulunsutao on Tuesday October 29, 2019 @03:01PM (#21390819)
in Soviet Union...?
Re:DuckDuckGo Terminal Interface by yellowapple on Tuesday October 29, 2019 @11:12PM (#21394365)
...DuckDuckGo searches you?
Re:DuckDuckGo Terminal Interface by Sami_Lehtinen on Tuesday October 29, 2019 @11:45AM (#21388441)