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Re:After Spike in Deaths, New York to Get 250 Miles of Prote... by fennecfoxen on Monday October 28, 2019 @03:38PM (#21380707)
> That is, if everybody makes the same mistake

Who says it's a mistake?

It has nothing to do with the signals and everything to do with the pedestrians. If you actually want people to respect the signals, place traffic police on every corner in Manhattan and issue jaywalking tickets to absolutely everyone, for months on end, and you'll see it. (You'll also see a backlash.)

Other than that, it's not happening.

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Re:After Spike in Deaths, New York to Get 250 Miles of Prote... by selectodude on Monday October 28, 2019 @05:23PM (#21381849)
Giuliani already tried that. People didn't respect the signals.

https://www.nytimes.com/1998/01/13/nyregion/with-higher-fine...

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Re:After Spike in Deaths, New York to Get 250 Miles of Prote... by fennecfoxen on Thursday November 07, 2019 @09:05AM (#21473258)
Wasn't enough. You need to ticket someone every single time, or close to it. (The amount of the ticket hardly matters, it's the consistency.)

(You will notice this idea is unworkable due to excessive manpower requirements. It is undesirable for other reasons as well.)

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