Re:Tesla’s new Solar Roof costs less than a new roof plus so...
by cpursley on Saturday October 26, 2019 @09:20AM
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Denser human scale development is the real answer. Electric cars and rooftop solar is not going to solve the massive suburban sprawl crisis. You can thank the federal interstate system for that (effectively subsidizing land).
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Re:Tesla’s new Solar Roof costs less than a new roof plus so...
by abootstrapper on Saturday October 26, 2019 @10:36AM
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I agree we should put the breaks on urban sprawl, but the US is already spread out. I mean what’s more feasible: Have all current suburbanites sell their house, move downtown, and have their old property leveled OR get them driving an EV?
Re:Tesla’s new Solar Roof costs less than a new roof plus so...
by BlueTemplar on Saturday October 26, 2019 @10:53AM
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The first one, at least for the next decades. (We don't have enough resources for the second option - due to the required number of batteries. )
Re:Tesla’s new Solar Roof costs less than a new roof plus so...
by nostrademons on Saturday October 26, 2019 @12:17PM
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We don't have enough housing or mass transit for the first option, and building more batteries has proven significantly easier than building either more housing or more transit.
Re:Tesla’s new Solar Roof costs less than a new roof plus so...
by BlueTemplar on Sunday October 27, 2019 @07:00AM
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This is where we'll have to disagree - the limitations to building housing and mass transit are mostly economical, while for batteries they are mostly physical.
Re:Tesla’s new Solar Roof costs less than a new roof plus so...
by nostrademons on Sunday October 27, 2019 @12:28PM
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Would definitely disagree on that. The limitations of building housing and mass transit are mostly political, while for batteries they're both economical and physical. I'd take physical problems over political ones any day.
Re:Tesla’s new Solar Roof costs less than a new roof plus so...
by steelframe on Saturday October 26, 2019 @11:13AM
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We know we can't quickly replace all gas combustion engines on the road today with batteries because of material supply constraints alone. However if the goal is to reduce carbon emissions by vehicles by 90%, we can probably get there by replacing 95% of all gas-only vehicles with plug-in hybrids, which require a small fraction of the amount of battery material than fully electric cars require. I'm probably off with my estimates, but I believe they're in the ballpark.
Re:Tesla’s new Solar Roof costs less than a new roof plus so...
by BlueTemplar on Sunday October 27, 2019 @07:01AM
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Hmm, that's interesting - I thought that hybrids were less efficient, but maybe if they also require much less batteries they could be a great stepping stone ?