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Re:Who Killed the Scrollbar? by JohnFen on Friday October 25, 2019 @03:44PM (#21358549)
> The reason why scrollbars are not a first class UI widget in mobile UIs is because they are finger based, which means every manipulable widget needs to be finger sized

And yet, several mobile apps I use routinely have found a way to make it work reasonably well. They use a slim line of a scrollbar to indicate where you are, and if you touch the scrollbar then a larger finger-friendly handle appears which can be used like a traditional scrollbar.

But I'm much more forgiving of UI compromises that are forced by the limitations of mobile devices. It's when those same compromises are used on the desktop that I have a problem -- that's just degrading the UX for no good reason.

Re:Who Killed the Scrollbar? by novok on Friday October 25, 2019 @03:53PM (#21358619)
Testing on my iOS device, I don't think it's an app thing, but UIKit standard thing that comes with scrollviews. The bar doesn't become finger thick, but it's still usable. I've been using iOS devices for a long time, so it shows you how hidden it is.

I agree it's sloppy on desktops, but it helps to understand the reasons why the sloppyness happens. Kind of like electron apps :p

Re:Who Killed the Scrollbar? by deergomoo on Friday October 25, 2019 @04:12PM (#21358786)
I believe it’s new in iOS 13
Re:Who Killed the Scrollbar? by redwall_hp on Friday October 25, 2019 @07:15PM (#21360159)
Way back in 2008, the Music app made use of this sort of feature (baked into UIKit). Table views can be "indexed," meaning you get A, B, C, etc down the side, and can swipe on it to move faster down the list.
Re:Who Killed the Scrollbar? by saagarjha on Friday October 25, 2019 @09:01PM (#21360810)
Contacts still has this.
Re:Who Killed the Scrollbar? by ken on Friday October 25, 2019 @04:55PM (#21359166)
I've heard this from several sources, but never been able to make it work. What apps, and what version of iOS? Is it new in iOS 13?
Re:Who Killed the Scrollbar? by bobbylarrybobby on Friday October 25, 2019 @08:13PM (#21360521)
It's pretty much everywhere you can see the scrollbar. Just press on the scrollbar for a second (so that it seems deliberate), then drag it around.
Re:Who Killed the Scrollbar? by comex on Saturday October 26, 2019 @01:22AM (#21361880)
It is new in iOS 13, for the record.