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Re:Steve Wozniak says he does not expect fully autonomous ca... by pkulak on Thursday October 24, 2019 @05:31PM (#21349418)
I think we're at least one CS breakthrough away, and how do you put a timeline on that?

Kinda like how speech recognition was just almost there for decades until modern ML made it actually as good as a human being.

Re:Steve Wozniak says he does not expect fully autonomous ca... by ozten on Thursday October 24, 2019 @06:40PM (#21349934)
> ML made it actually as good as a human being

How ML made it usable in some cases, would be more accurate. I still can't ask Alexa to play specific albums or tracks most of the time.

I don't want that level of accuracy driving cars on the road.

Re:Steve Wozniak says he does not expect fully autonomous ca... by shsjxjbsbs on Thursday October 24, 2019 @07:26PM (#21350219)
Google seems to have no trouble playing music from Spotify for me. It can even manage it while I yell my song requests from the shower.
Re:Steve Wozniak says he does not expect fully autonomous ca... by rsj_hn on Thursday October 24, 2019 @10:13PM (#21351201)
The only thing I have ever wanted from phone assistants is to tell me whether a coffee shop was open or not, or what the closing time is. I still can't get this info, nor is this question understood. I still have to stop, launch a browser, navigate to the site, and dig around their website for opening hours, or in the worst case find a phone number and call to ask them.
Re:Steve Wozniak says he does not expect fully autonomous ca... by Doxin on Friday October 25, 2019 @08:01AM (#21354103)
The one thing that I can consistently get google assistant to do is to set timers: "Ok google set timer for 5 minutes". I want more of that. Could they please just implement and document simple recipes like this? Setting a timer hands-free is already incredibly convenient, and I can only imagine making something similar for a wide host of tasks isn't /that/ hard. I really don't mind if I have to formulate it in a rather specific way, as long as it works and I can find out what that way is.
Re:Steve Wozniak says he does not expect fully autonomous ca... by adriftincode on Thursday October 24, 2019 @10:38PM (#21351324)
What phone assistants are you using? I’ve never had this problem.
Re:Steve Wozniak says he does not expect fully autonomous ca... by rsj_hn on Friday October 25, 2019 @03:41AM (#21352745)
Siri
Re:Steve Wozniak says he does not expect fully autonomous ca... by adriftincode on Friday October 25, 2019 @12:29PM (#21356608)
Same here, Siri solves this problem.

Me: “Hey Siri, how late is x open?”

Siri: One possibility is on x street, does that sound good?

Me: Yes

Siri:

“X is open from y-z.”

Re:Steve Wozniak says he does not expect fully autonomous ca... by rsj_hn on Wednesday October 30, 2019 @12:32PM (#21399527)
I just tried it and you're right, it works. Well, it didn't used to work so I stopped using Siri. I regret the error.
Re:Steve Wozniak says he does not expect fully autonomous ca... by shsjxjbsbs on Wednesday October 30, 2019 @10:07PM (#21405031)
I wonder if people assume Siri failed to understand the query when they hear its request for clarification. I think it should include some context, eg: “Which x do you want opening hours for?”
Re:Steve Wozniak says he does not expect fully autonomous ca... by officeplant on Friday October 25, 2019 @12:15PM (#21356446)
The weird names and track titles that dominate electronic music has made this quite difficult for me.
Re:Steve Wozniak says he does not expect fully autonomous ca... by 663e1b on Thursday October 24, 2019 @07:07PM (#21350101)
Better GPUs is what enabled modern ML, it wasn't a CS breakthrough.
Re:Steve Wozniak says he does not expect fully autonomous ca... by pkulak on Sunday October 27, 2019 @03:26PM (#21371826)
I dunno. I'd say new classification strategies like K-Means* really did it. Without that, all the power in the world doesn't get you anywhere.

* https://www-cs.stanford.edu/~acoates/papers/coatesng_nntot20...