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Re:Gitlab ‘rethinking’ third-party telemetry by zaroth on Thursday October 24, 2019 @05:14PM (#21349250)
Or just opt-out, if they ever add it, and if it is not opt-in at that time.
Re:Gitlab ‘rethinking’ third-party telemetry by JohnFen on Thursday October 24, 2019 @06:27PM (#21349840)
Yes, for those who really need to stay on Gitlab.

Where my thinking is at right now, though, is that Gitlab has just tangibly demonstrated that they don't deserve a great deal of trust, and so I'm not inclined to trust any opt-in or opt-out choices.

Even if they're effective at the time they are introduced (which I don't really doubt they would be), I am not comfortable in relying that they won't change the deal in the future.

Re:Gitlab ‘rethinking’ third-party telemetry by inetknght on Thursday October 24, 2019 @07:05PM (#21350092)
Opting out now won't matter in the future when they reset the default and then reset everyone's configuration "to let you make the choice with new information" or whatever spin they want. Then you miss that new choice in your automatically-deployed update and... well then what?
Re:Gitlab ‘rethinking’ third-party telemetry by zaroth on Thursday October 24, 2019 @08:25PM (#21350552)
I guess if we’re making up things that could happen, why bother even giving them credit for providing a choice at all?
Re:Gitlab ‘rethinking’ third-party telemetry by tjoff on Friday October 25, 2019 @02:33AM (#21352469)
Indeed there is little point to care about a choice when the trust for them to uphold that preference doesn't exist anymore.
Re:Gitlab ‘rethinking’ third-party telemetry by zaroth on Friday October 25, 2019 @08:59AM (#21354489)
I agree completely that a company's most precious asset is the trust of their customers. If you fundamentally lose / abuse that trust, eventually you will have no more customers.

Source control is a particularly good example when it's the core IP of your company at stake, and engineers--who can sometimes be a bit prickly about these things--are making the decision on which product to use.

In this case the reaction to me seems overblown, as Gitlab AFAIK has been a well run and particularly transparent company. I felt the same way about the recent reaction to Gitlab saying they want to stay out of the politics of passing moral judgement on every repo they are hosting, which to me seemed exactly right. To be clear, I'm not and have never been a Gitlab customer, so I'm not basing any of this on any personal experience the quality of their product.

Now speculating on how they might do something in the future which impacts self-hosted instances, assuming the worst, and declaring it will mean switching providers... I think the comment would be better off just saying something like; "I'm looking at the way Gitlab is handling this issue and it makes me no longer trust them with my data, so I will be going elsewhere" -- just without the rank speculation.