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Re:We Never Paid for Journalism by vkou on Thursday October 24, 2019 @03:18PM (#21348208)
> They just didn't have the metrics to prove it.

As any SMB owner who dabbles in advertising will tell you, you can, in fact, get a pretty good guess as to what the ROI on print advertising is. Look at business when you run ads versus business when you don't.

For stuff like brand uplift, yes, its difficult to measure the value of print advertising. It's also difficult to measure the value of brand uplift on the web.

> What we know now is that click-through rates on news sites are really not substantially better than click-through rates on Joe Schmo's random blog -- but they _are_ substantially worse than in certain other business segments, like search.

Which should be a surprise to nobody, given that search implies intent to... Look for something. Often a product.

Re:We Never Paid for Journalism by Torwald on Thursday October 24, 2019 @03:33PM (#21348366)
> As any SMB owner who dabbles in advertising will tell you, you can, in fact, get a pretty good guess as to what the ROI on print advertising is.

Of course! Scientific advertising was published in the 1920s! It's just that Madison Avenue could make a hell of a lot more money by being shy about it. So, nobody was talking.

Until the internet made it too obvious…