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Re:Edward Snowden on The Joe Rogan Experience [video] by raxxorrax on Wednesday October 23, 2019 @09:56AM (#21334658)
I do think ignoring the rules is part of his success. If you add the ridiculous stories about Russia, which was one of the worse conspiracy theories, but was mainly driven by the intelligence community, the current political situation isn't a surprise at all.

The spying was equally supported by the Democrats as well as Republicans. They further try to restrict freedom on the net by their newest attempt with the CASE law. It is one of the most consistent pattern of established parties.

Trump didn't win because it would be helpful for his base. It is to evict people that failed to bring forth sensible policies.

It is reactionary, but perfectly understandable. If everyone ignores the rules, we will do that too.

I am no American, but that is what it looks like.

Re:Edward Snowden on The Joe Rogan Experience [video] by duxup on Wednesday October 23, 2019 @10:33AM (#21335004)
I have trouble parsing what you're saying. Honestly, a lot of it seems like empty taglines that don't say anything.

>It is to evict people that failed to bring forth sensible policies.

What policies? Doesn't every new politician claim exactly that?

Re:Edward Snowden on The Joe Rogan Experience [video] by raxxorrax on Wednesday October 23, 2019 @10:48AM (#21335166)
Evidently. What is your explanation for the success of Trump?

Because he has a pretty clean alibi for not implementing mass surveillance.

Re:Edward Snowden on The Joe Rogan Experience [video] by duxup on Wednesday October 23, 2019 @10:56AM (#21335245)
>What is your explanation for the success of Trump?

I'm not sure why I would have to explain that to understand what you're saying.

>Because he has a pretty clean alibi for not implementing mass surveillance.

I have no idea what that means in relation to the first sentence. Are you saying he wasn't a part of government during the establishment of some surveillance and that means something now? and/or Do you feel voters cared about that?

Re:Edward Snowden on The Joe Rogan Experience [video] by raxxorrax on Wednesday October 23, 2019 @11:39AM (#21335731)
You referenced the current president as an example of someone ignoring the law, while previous administrations were responsible for implementing and extending mass surveillance consistently while ignoring the law. I said that could be part of Trumps success, because his voters had similar ideas.

Which laws did Trump break by the way?

Re:Edward Snowden on The Joe Rogan Experience [video] by duxup on Wednesday October 23, 2019 @12:09PM (#21336029)
This conversation seems to be the status quo for many parts of the internet and I don't understand what the point is.

It starts with some empty taglines and talking points and then lots of questions like:

>What is your explanation for the success of Trump?

or

>Which laws did Trump break by the way?

That don't seem related to anything I said.

It just feels like pushing talking points or a push poll, by constantly asking someone to prove random things in order to provide some support to some weird concepts like because some user can't explain something... that means something or other...