Re:Edward Snowden on The Joe Rogan Experience [video]
by claudeganon on Wednesday October 23, 2019 @08:04AM
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Why anyone would listen to anything with a bigot like Crowder is beyond me. If you can’t defend your conservatism without devolving into racist and homophobic slurs, you really shouldn’t be taken seriously.
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Re:Edward Snowden on The Joe Rogan Experience [video]
by johnmorrison on Wednesday October 23, 2019 @08:17AM
(#21333769)
I find it's useful to listen to those you have strong ethical disagreements with, in order to challenge your own ego and ideas.
Re:Edward Snowden on The Joe Rogan Experience [video]
by claudeganon on Wednesday October 23, 2019 @08:57AM
(#21334117)
Sorry, but I’ve lived enough of my adult life to know that I can tune out people who do mocking imitations of queer people on YouTube and be intellectually just fine.
Re:Edward Snowden on The Joe Rogan Experience [video]
by drak0n1c on Wednesday October 23, 2019 @01:34PM
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Crowder was harangued by Maza for years, Crowder responding by doing a mocking impression of the self-referential non sequiturs that Maza would proclaim amidst his criticisms seems like fair game and not homophobic.
I don't see how it is any worse than when Crowder mocks Trump's braggadocios by imitating his common catchphrases. Such material is low comedy, for sure, but not cancel-worthy.
Re:Edward Snowden on The Joe Rogan Experience [video]
by ssully on Wednesday October 23, 2019 @02:08PM
(#21337216)
He was homophobic because he used homophobic slurs, not because he did a mocking impression (which is just childish, and is also a good reason to not take the guy seriously). The guy is a fucking joke.
Re:Edward Snowden on The Joe Rogan Experience [video]
by drak0n1c on Wednesday October 23, 2019 @02:16PM
(#21337277)
The slurs in question were repeatedly and brazenly used by Maza in his past attacks on Crowder, and thus were part of the impression in Crowder's response. Context matters. Otherwise, if simply uttering or referencing homophobic slurs makes one a homophobe, regardless of context, then wouldn't Carlos Maza be a homophobe too?
Re:Edward Snowden on The Joe Rogan Experience [video]
by ssully on Wednesday October 23, 2019 @02:35PM
(#21337450)
I don't follow Carlos's work, but looking at his twitter he is very openly gay, so I would find it very difficult to call him a homophobe. Also even outside of this one incident, the nicest way I would ever describe Crowder is a leach - I was shown his work by a family member (who thankfully doesn't watch his bullshit anymore) before this incident. The guy stirs up shit and offers no value; absolutely worthless.
Re:Edward Snowden on The Joe Rogan Experience [video]
by mlurp on Wednesday October 23, 2019 @09:53AM
(#21334627)
I agree with you in general, but there are much better people to do that with than Crowder. He doesn't seem like he's acting in good faith, and more generally, think about stuff very much.
There are plenty of intelligent conservatives/whatever that don't do the stuff he does that's just intended to be offensive/get attention.
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Re:Edward Snowden on The Joe Rogan Experience [video]
by LMYahooTFY on Wednesday October 23, 2019 @09:40AM
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> This is possible only if those people you disagree with don't have power over you
This certainly must be false, or parenting wouldn't work.
I've taken many, maybe even most lessons and ego checks from people more powerful than me.
Re:Edward Snowden on The Joe Rogan Experience [video]
by yourbandsucks on Wednesday October 23, 2019 @12:11PM
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What power does Crowder have over you? He's a joke.
Consider: his viewpoint is a firing offense at FAANG while your viewpoint is constantly validated and endorsed.
Who's got the power there? Of course Crowder is a terrible example to speak up for, but he definitely is not empowered.
Re:Edward Snowden on The Joe Rogan Experience [video]
by claudiawerner on Wednesday October 23, 2019 @09:32AM
(#21334417)
Not to mention the fact that Crowder's own material tends to show how severely misinformed he is on some of the views he criticizes - in fact in that respect he's become somewhat of a meme in some circles.
Re:Edward Snowden on The Joe Rogan Experience [video]
by ur-whale on Wednesday October 23, 2019 @08:17AM
(#21333773)
Where does Crowder come in at all in this conversation?
Re:Edward Snowden on The Joe Rogan Experience [video]
by claudeganon on Wednesday October 23, 2019 @08:30AM
(#21333861)
JRE #917, which the parent said to listen to, is an interview with Crowder.