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Re:The Internet of creation disappeared. Now we have surveil... by buboard on Monday October 21, 2019 @07:08PM (#21318576)
We have always had email servers. You can set up one today. What we need is to to convince more technical people to use the internet the way it was designed for. And to find ways for these people to make money, because the monopolized internet of today makes that unattainable.
Re:The Internet of creation disappeared. Now we have surveil... by maze-le on Tuesday October 22, 2019 @07:41AM (#21322500)
Been there, done that... It is a waste of time and effort if you can't convince other people to join your services. I have operated a jabber server for quite some time (2008ish - 2012). Mostly for me and some friends to organize lan parties and such. I told other people about it but after a week of interest, no one seriously used it, since everyone was already using other services to communicate -- also using a XMPP client seemed to be to much to ask for the non-techies.

As time goes on our communications moved towards facebook and teamspeak. And after dropping out of the local gaming scene I stopped operating it altogether -- if I am the only one using a comms-infrastructure its kinda moot, even if it's a federated system. I had some contacts outside of the gaming-bubble but by the time no one seemed to have used it anymore.

Re:The Internet of creation disappeared. Now we have surveil... by buboard on Tuesday October 22, 2019 @08:00AM (#21322639)
it really is an issue of network-lock-in though. facebook is already bloated, discord will become as well. they try hard not to rot but they will
Re:The Internet of creation disappeared. Now we have surveil... by rhizome on Monday October 21, 2019 @07:47PM (#21318857)
Maybe something to make would be an addition to mail servers that chat-ifies group emails.
Re:The Internet of creation disappeared. Now we have surveil... by buboard on Monday October 21, 2019 @07:50PM (#21318873)
all you need is an X-header. I also liked the expires header but it didnt catch on
Re:The Internet of creation disappeared. Now we have surveil... by jimktrains2 on Monday October 21, 2019 @08:39PM (#21319194)
Chatifies in what way?
Re:The Internet of creation disappeared. Now we have surveil... by rhizome on Tuesday October 22, 2019 @12:32AM (#21320396)
Group iMessage = CC list, cc list becomes messaging group. I suppose one way this could play out would be simply to add an email submission API for text messaging app(s), but it's an incomplete idea so far. :)
Re:The Internet of creation disappeared. Now we have surveil... by jimktrains2 on Tuesday October 22, 2019 @12:59AM (#21320510)
I'm still not sure what you mean. Are you simply talking about an email client that looks like a text messaging program?
Re:The Internet of creation disappeared. Now we have surveil... by rhizome on Thursday October 24, 2019 @09:03PM (#21350806)
That's doable. The image in my mind was the reverse: a chat program that displays email threads. Interactions in chat become mailing list replies emailed out, and replies to the CC list are displayed in the chat channel.
Re:The Internet of creation disappeared. Now we have surveil... by ahje on Tuesday October 22, 2019 @07:43AM (#21322520)
I like that idea; An email client that looks and behaves like the regular messaging apps in iOS/Android.