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Re:Ask HN: Feasible Alternative to the MacBook Pro? by Symbiote on Sunday October 20, 2019 @08:35AM (#21303738)
Stretching this analogy even further:

With Linux, we have a choice of over 20 different housemaids and lawn-cutting robots, though choosing between them is difficult at first.

Most lawn robots can also sweep patios or shovel snow, so if you move to a different climate you can use the same tools.

Re:Ask HN: Feasible Alternative to the MacBook Pro? by fauigerzigerk on Sunday October 20, 2019 @10:04AM (#21304212)
And all the robots run Linux as well, so you better start customising those first in case the package maintainer doesn't share your conviction that lawns and carpets are not the same thing in every respect :)
Re:Ask HN: Feasible Alternative to the MacBook Pro? by mcv on Sunday October 20, 2019 @11:15AM (#21304645)
I'd like to have a house set up and ready with a decent selection of pre-configured robots to take care of my needs, with an easy interface to reconfigure them or add some new ones.

Or are we still talking about Linux?

Re:Ask HN: Feasible Alternative to the MacBook Pro? by eropple on Sunday October 20, 2019 @11:36AM (#21304769)
TBH, at this point I think you just described Fedora. I’ve been using it everyday for three years and the total set of customizations I’ve needed to make, outside of my developer stuff, has been...remapping a few keys, really.

The absolute worst, edge-case-est thing I’ve hit: I did have to install a COPR to install (with zero configuration) Bumblebee to be able to completely disable my discrete GPU to save battery life when I was on vacation, and multi-monitor with Bumblebee sucks, so when I got back I uninstalled Bumblebee and Nouveau took back over.

Re:Ask HN: Feasible Alternative to the MacBook Pro? by dotancohen on Sunday October 20, 2019 @08:41AM (#21303762)

  > Most lawn robots can also sweep patios or shovel
  > snow, so if you move to a different climate you
  > can use the same tools.
I thought that the UNIX was was to one job, well.
Re:Ask HN: Feasible Alternative to the MacBook Pro? by Jare on Sunday October 20, 2019 @09:55AM (#21304170)
The robot's job is to move back & forth the tool it is holding in its arms as it sweeps across the surface it is on. Give it (pipe) a shovel or a mop or a crass cutting thing and there you go.
Re:Ask HN: Feasible Alternative to the MacBook Pro? by coldtea on Sunday October 20, 2019 @09:51AM (#21304142)
No, that's some philosophy from 40 years ago regarding the bare-bones UNIX userland (tools like cat, tar, grep, bc, etc).

It never applied to other things, like Emacs, and was never a core tenet for server and GUI applications, or frameworks...

Re:Ask HN: Feasible Alternative to the MacBook Pro? by laretluval on Sunday October 20, 2019 @02:59PM (#21306272)
That is the official Unix philosophy, but a glance at just about any man page will suggest that it's never been followed.
Re:Ask HN: Feasible Alternative to the MacBook Pro? by ghettoimp on Sunday October 20, 2019 @05:06PM (#21307143)
Yup. My copy of "sudo" has 23 documented command line switches, 15 documented environment variables that influence various behaviors, plugins(!), and can also use a configuration file for setting up paths, debugging tools, etc. Do one thing well, indeed.
Re:Ask HN: Feasible Alternative to the MacBook Pro? by jmmcd on Sunday October 20, 2019 @09:57AM (#21304183)
Yes, but the point of Unix is that sweeping leaves and sweeping snow are the same task, when viewed in the right way.