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Re:Ask HN: Feasible Alternative to the MacBook Pro? by tasuki on Sunday October 20, 2019 @05:26AM (#21303085)
+1 for ThinkPads, they just work. The XPS has super annoying fans which change their speed randomly all the time (though it's possible to override: https://github.com/TomFreudenberg/dell-bios-fan-control).

Btw, Xfce is a desktop environment while Ubuntu is a distribution. Perhaps you meant to write you're on Xfce instead of Gnome?

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Re:Ask HN: Feasible Alternative to the MacBook Pro? by ratiolat on Sunday October 20, 2019 @07:26AM (#21303486)
Thinkpads come in different flavours, and the have very different quality. Either get a T-series, or X-series (X series is basically smaller version of T). Or if it's a used one, the later A-series are good as well (A series means AMD instead of Intel). The old A - series were crap. Nowadays T and X series have AMD also (if model ends with 5, it's AMD). T and X series have MIL certification. For example there's also X1 Extreme (costs around 3000€), but quality wise it's a lot worse than T or X series, because it does not have the MIL certificate.
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Re:Ask HN: Feasible Alternative to the MacBook Pro? by jlg23 on Sunday October 20, 2019 @01:23PM (#21305539)
Lenovo claims it has the usyal MIL certications, see Features under: https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/thinkpad/thinkpad-x/Thi...
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Re:Ask HN: Feasible Alternative to the MacBook Pro? by ratiolat on Sunday October 20, 2019 @04:46PM (#21307010)
My bad. It reality it has the MIL-STD-810G cert. Sorry for causing confusion.
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Re:Ask HN: Feasible Alternative to the MacBook Pro? by gjm11 on Sunday October 20, 2019 @09:20AM (#21303938)
Or, if you need the power and don't mind the size/weight and price, P-series.
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Re:Ask HN: Feasible Alternative to the MacBook Pro? by tasuki on Sunday October 20, 2019 @08:03AM (#21303606)
Yes, when I wrote ThinkPad I meant T or X series!

First time I hear the X1 Extreme is worse quality wise - I was thinking it'd be my next machine... like in a couple of years. Do you have more info?

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Re:Ask HN: Feasible Alternative to the MacBook Pro? by ratiolat on Sunday October 20, 2019 @09:25AM (#21303965)
Two examples: 1. No drainage system (like in X and T series) 2. Screen hinge becomes loose in less than a year (anecdata)

Edit: in order to remove battery, you have to remove the whole bottom cover.

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Re:Ask HN: Feasible Alternative to the MacBook Pro? by theatrus2 on Sunday October 20, 2019 @11:09AM (#21304616)
So, just the same as a MBP in that regard.

I use X1Carbons as a daily Linux driver after MBP and am very happy with them.

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Re:Ask HN: Feasible Alternative to the MacBook Pro? by tasuki on Sunday October 20, 2019 @10:05AM (#21304217)
Thanks for the info. Nothing worse than loose hinges!
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Re:Ask HN: Feasible Alternative to the MacBook Pro? by beefield on Sunday October 20, 2019 @08:31AM (#21303717)
Just do not make the mistake of assuming that the lenovo's next business day warranty means next business day. My current understanding is that they try their best to give a call to you next day but what comes to actual repair, there is no guarantee whatsoever when that is going to happen (some time ago my latop was in a brick-like state for more than 10 days and lenovo seems to be perfectly happy with their performance.)
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Re:Ask HN: Feasible Alternative to the MacBook Pro? by mherrmann on Sunday October 20, 2019 @05:28AM (#21303090)
Yeah, sure. I was on Ubuntu, now I'm on Debian + Xfce. It's better because it's faster and does not have some of the bugs I mentioned in the article I linked to.
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Re:Ask HN: Feasible Alternative to the MacBook Pro? by garmaine on Sunday October 20, 2019 @06:03AM (#21303222)
Sure, but Xubuntu is a thing, so your phrasing is very unclear.
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