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Re:Ask HN: What Is the Best University in Europe for MS in C... by oneplane on Friday October 18, 2019 @05:17PM (#21295158)
In the EU there isn't much of a ranking of Universities. It's practically more of a good-uni-with-proper-acceditation vs. the rest. At the same time, almost no company really cares what school you went to or what it was called.

The only real choice or 'best' is the surrounding ecosystem. Going to a university that has no internet connection will still get you the same information and skills but for most people having no internet isn't all that fun. Same goes for studying somewhere very cold when you like warm days, or somewhere warm when you like it cold.

If you want something 'extra' (which again, no company cares about) like prestige, you can make a list of all the places that have your preference to be (climate, language etc.) and then check what 'extra' things they have, like solar cars or public-private AI partnerships, or military applications or space/esa connections. It won't do you much good if that extra experience has nothing to do with what your goals are, and you can gain that experience without a university just fine.

Perhaps some context in the origins of your thinking/culture would be best. Most people assume USA mindset when this type of question gets asked.

Re:Ask HN: What Is the Best University in Europe for MS in C... by Recursing on Saturday October 19, 2019 @09:04AM (#21298256)
Thanks for the answer

The idea was to get a list of interesting places to choose from, apply to a bunch of them and try to have as much information as possible for choosing the final one

Another interesting question would be which culture would be the best fit for me, I hadn't thought of that, thanks

Re:Ask HN: What Is the Best University in Europe for MS in C... by oneplane on Saturday October 19, 2019 @03:31PM (#21300255)
If you know what kind of topics you find most interesting, you should put that on your list of preferences (combined with culture, location etc). If you have a weird mix like Biomedical Computing, Program Correctness, Computer Vision and you really like SAT solvers, finding out where the hotspots for those topics are can help you select a uni. I know of a few people that selected based on professors that would be available to them, and some that were purely interested in getting into any of the FAANG, that does limit your options and as a result should make your list much shorter.
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Re:Ask HN: What Is the Best University in Europe for MS in C... by ploika on Sunday October 20, 2019 @10:25AM (#21304331)
First of all, tone down the aggression. People are constantly harping on about how much better HN is than everywhere else on the internet. Your reply lends the lie to that complete fiction. Take a moment to reflect on your own communication style before dismissing others' comments "pure garbage".

Second, I agree with the post you're replying to.

Regarding accreditation, the point is that it effectively makes no difference whether QS or THE ranks your university as No. 6 or No. 106. They're both pretty good. But everyone knows that there's variation in the quality of graduate of any given university, and they take that into account.

It will make a difference, however, if the university is ranked in the 600+ category. That institution would probably be grouped in with "the rest".

If you're looking for certain jobs in finance, law or academia, then the institution matters much more. Those areas are perhaps not quite as meritocratic as they should be.

However, if you're applying for a graduate tech job in the EU, it really, really doesn't matter that much if you got a 1.1 from Cambridge or a 1.1 from Dublin City University. Both will probably get you an interview, depending on what else is on your CV. And at that point it's a level playing field - the interviewers won't be dazzled by the name of your college, they'll just grill you to make sure you know what you need to know and can learn fast enough to be useful in the company.

Re:Ask HN: What Is the Best University in Europe for MS in C... by oneplane on Saturday October 19, 2019 @03:17PM (#21300171)
I suppose you misinterpret, but that is up to you. I'm not saying nobody is making lists, I'm saying the lists don't matter. Unless you are in some sort of alternate reality where you have to compete for work, the specific university you went to has no weight to it. You can probably find some sort of multinational or a FAANG job where they do try to rank applicants based on the name of the university but that is more an exception than a rule here in western Europe.

The last four large companies I worked at or contracted for didn't even look at what university I went to 15 years ago, or how certified I am. The past 5 or 6 years were relevant, and that's about it.

Perhaps if you are inexperienced or all you have is your years at a University it might matter at your first entry-level job. Or if you want to purely work in academia. But that is not what most of the MS or BS work revolves around and it is not where people are needed the most.

Re:Ask HN: What Is the Best University in Europe for MS in C... by throwaway123mmm on Saturday October 19, 2019 @02:33PM (#21299965)
I completely agree with you.

Unfortunately, it seems like the parent poster never had colleagues from top universities. There is a reason that google is in Zurich, Munich, etc... and not next to random universities.

In general (exceptions always exist) there is much more potential in people who have finished 'good' universities. They are finishers. They dont give up and do whats needed to reach their goal.

Re:Ask HN: What Is the Best University in Europe for MS in C... by oneplane on Saturday October 19, 2019 @03:23PM (#21300205)
Out of all the students I graduated with only 1 or 2 (one of them ended up quitting during the grace period so it depends on how you want to count that) ended up with jobs that they only got because of our university, and none of my current colleagues were selected based on where they got their MS or BS. Two of the ex-Googlers we have here were selected by Google for their MS, but then again, rather the exception (only a small number of jobs use ranking) than the rule.

We select on merit, drive and competence applied recently. And where you got your MS or BS or if you have one at all weighs proportionally to the rest (and in the past 2 years we haven't even had anyone join any of the teams where it even mattered if they had one at all because their were selected on the rest).