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Re:The World's First 20-Hour Airline Flight by raverbashing on Friday October 18, 2019 @04:47AM (#21289682)
Not everyone can afford to not fly in Economy

But do keep yourself hydrated and go for a walk around the plane once in a while, it helps.

Re:The World's First 20-Hour Airline Flight by isostatic on Friday October 18, 2019 @04:51AM (#21289715)
Everyone can afford not to fly at all
Re:The World's First 20-Hour Airline Flight by jchw on Friday October 18, 2019 @04:58AM (#21289748)
You do realize it's part of some of our jobs, correct?
Re:The World's First 20-Hour Airline Flight by GordonS on Friday October 18, 2019 @06:22AM (#21290106)
Yep, every UK company I've worked at for 20 years has had a strict "economy only" policy, unless you're at something like VP level.

There have been times when I've had to take 3 economy flights in a row to get to a destination, travelling over 24h straight.

Travelling long-haul in economy if you're anything near 6 feet tall is absolutely fucking miserable. But not everyone has the luxury of easily getting another job, so what can you do?

The only upside is that after doing it long enough you gain status (but it takes a looong time flying economy), then you tend to get free upgrades a lot more often, and you can use your airlines to get a free upgrade on the rare occasions where the moon and stars align and the airline says there is availability.

Re:The World's First 20-Hour Airline Flight by flyinglizard on Friday October 18, 2019 @07:31AM (#21290397)
I have a rule - I don’t fly long haul economy for an employer, ever. Premium Economy is the minimum tolerable, and if it’s more than once a quarter, I only fly business. No exceptions.
Re:The World's First 20-Hour Airline Flight by GordonS on Friday October 18, 2019 @07:42AM (#21290455)
I also agree that Premium Economy is the "minimum tolerable" - it's still not exactly pleasant for long haul, but at least you have enough space to be relatively comfortable. Sleeping is still pretty difficult though.

I have the same Premium Economy rule nowadays, but I now have the luxury of being able to do that; earlier in my career, I didn't.

Re:The World's First 20-Hour Airline Flight by isostatic on Friday October 18, 2019 @11:22AM (#21292130)
I’m fine with economy in Europe, YMMV

But yes, it’s about how often you fly. Once or twice a year on a midhaul day flight like Uk to east coast or Mid East in a good economy plane (qatar a350 for example) is fine. flying 30 times a year then just say no. It’s not worth the damage to your health.

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Re:The World's First 20-Hour Airline Flight by jchw on Friday October 18, 2019 @06:58AM (#21290263)
I can also ponder about other useless conundrums, such as if my job were to require me to come up with non-sense analogies that have no basis in reality.
Re:The World's First 20-Hour Airline Flight by isostatic on Friday October 18, 2019 @11:24AM (#21292138)
Your job is forcing you to do bad things for your health. Either say no, or leave. It’s not the airline’s fault.
Re:The World's First 20-Hour Airline Flight by jchw on Friday October 18, 2019 @11:45AM (#21292352)
The airplanes literally have >10x as many seats for economy. You know, airplane seats don’t get spaced out in ways that are literally hazardous to human life on accident. And as a culture, we decided things that threaten human life enough are worth making illegal even if they infringe on personal freedoms. Lots of people wouldn’t wear seatbelts or helmets without them.

IOW: it is absolutely the airline’s fault. And one of them, Spirit to be exact, is pushing the boundaries even further. Is there a limit to how far this will go? Probably not, left on its own.

And no, my job doesn’t ask me to smoke 40 packs a day, amazingly, and the two things you listed are not equivalent. It was, at one point in history, not unreasonable to ask employees to fly to other locations on company dime. It is slowly becoming unreasonable because there are no checks preventing this and people literally can’t just stop flying, this isn’t a real solution, the world would collapse with the absence of air travel, we can stop entertaining this thought.

Re:The World's First 20-Hour Airline Flight by kmlx on Friday October 18, 2019 @04:56AM (#21289738)
wut?