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Re:Gitlab Makes a U-Turn by dashundchen on Thursday October 17, 2019 @08:04PM (#21287493)
To be honest I'm finding the endless repetition of this debate with different actors tiresome.

But if you go and read the updated Gitlab document, it's easy to imagine how it would apply.

> We firmly adhere to laws including trade compliance laws in countries where we do business, and welcome everyone abiding by those legal restrictions to be customers of GitLab. In some circumstances, we may opt to not work with particular organizations, on a case-by-case basis. Some reasons we may choose not to work with certain entities include, but are not limited to:

> Engaging in illegal, unlawful behavior.

> Making derogatory statements or threats toward our community.

> Encouraging violence or discrimination against legally protected groups.

So yes, I read that the Ugandan in your example advocating state murder of sexual minorities (what the current bill is) would be kicked off of Gitlab. I imagine they would have to be prominent enough to attract attention for their views or explicitly using Gitlab to advance that goal.

I'm not sure why you expect people to be tolerant of that. Tolerance and a diversity of opinion is one thing, but I think you'd find many reasonable people would not extend that to cover violence, physical oppression, including the murder and elimination of classes of people, especially when the other side is just asking to exist.

Same goes for the debate about hosting white supremacist, anti-semetic etc style content.

Re:Gitlab Makes a U-Turn by flukus on Thursday October 17, 2019 @09:59PM (#21288013)
> I'm not sure why you expect people to be tolerant of that.

Because I expect people/organisations to not be hypocritical, anyone describing themselves as tolerant and inclusive but unable to work with most people in the world are hypocritical.

> Tolerance and a diversity of opinion is one thing, but I think you'd find many reasonable people would not extend that to cover violence, physical oppression, including the murder and elimination of classes of people, especially when the other side is just asking to exist.

I don't disagree, but you have to realize that this is a minority opinion in the world and by enforcing this on people is far more exclusionary.

Re:Gitlab Makes a U-Turn by dashundchen on Friday October 18, 2019 @11:02AM (#21291957)
> Because I expect people/organisations to not be hypocritical, anyone describing themselves as tolerant and inclusive but unable to work with most people in the world are hypocritical.

This accusation of hypocrisy is thrown frequently. But I don't see Gitlab, or the vast majority of progressives claiming to be universally and unconditionally tolerant. In fact Gitlab is literally enumerating their limits with the three points I quoted above.

Re:Gitlab Makes a U-Turn by grubland4322 on Thursday October 17, 2019 @09:31PM (#21287890)
I agree with ahartmetz's comment below: >We should really elevate our level of discoursce above throwing -isms at each other...