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Re:Where is science fiction leading us and what does it conc... by jackarcalon on Monday June 09, 2008 @11:12AM (#212819)
Many writers are very good at making already extremely complicated subjects (like social mores, conflicts, depression) even more impenetrable. There are very few writers indeed willing to explain complex subjects (like relativity or quantum physics) in simpler terms. If they did, it wouldn't be 'literature'.
Re:Where is science fiction leading us and what does it conc... by tungstenfurnace on Monday June 09, 2008 @12:16PM (#212873)
Agreed. Much writing which is self-consciously 'literary' in nature seems knowing and deliberately obscure.

There's a problem too with long-winded SF authors: they leave too little to the imagination. Most of my fave authors write fairly succintly, with gaps for my imagination to fill. This makes their stories seem more real and exciting.

Re:Where is science fiction leading us and what does it conc... by jseliger on Monday June 09, 2008 @01:12PM (#212929)
"Much writing which is self-consciously 'literary' in nature seems knowing and deliberately obscure."

I would say "some" rather than most, and the best are not deliberately obscure: look at writers like Fitzgerald, Bellow, (some) Updike, Flaubert, Hemingway and

Others are more difficult to read because of the nature of how they try to express reality, feeling, and point of view, like Virginia Woolf, Joyce, or Proust.

But I don't think neither is all that obscure or all that direct, as both words seem to be synonyms for the same ideas expressed along the axis of "nature" and "artifice" that James Wood describes in _How Fiction Works_.

Re:Where is science fiction leading us and what does it conc... by jseliger on Monday June 09, 2008 @01:16PM (#212933)
I'm not sure it's so much a matter of ideas as of how those ideas are expressed; in literary fiction, the two seem inseparable, but one aspect of the post tries to cover how in SF I'm not sure most writers think of language that way.