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Re:Murder by Rifle vs. Death by Meteor by opencl on Wednesday October 16, 2019 @05:57PM (#21276356)
You're also four and a half times more likely to be killed by "Firearms, type not stated" than someone's bare hands or feet, surely some fraction of those are rifles.
Re:Murder by Rifle vs. Death by Meteor by UnpossibleJim on Wednesday October 16, 2019 @06:07PM (#21276480)
Also, a large portion of the gun violence attached to pistols (other than convenience) are suicides. They all get rolled into the same umbrella of "gun violence" and it's difficult to parce out the self inflicted violence from the violence inflicted upon others.
Re:Murder by Rifle vs. Death by Meteor by bifrost on Wednesday October 16, 2019 @06:09PM (#21276494)
Suicide isn't violence and its ableist to claim otherwise, that statistic mangling needs to stop.

If you dig in, only 2700 homicides a year (including lawful shootings by LEOs) are comitted with firearms, and its dropping due to means other than gun control.

Re:Murder by Rifle vs. Death by Meteor by RunningDroid on Wednesday October 16, 2019 @06:21PM (#21276619)
Isn't suicide inherently violent due to the intent to cause permanent harm to oneself?

>its ableist to claim otherwise I don't understand what you mean by this, can you explain?

Re:Murder by Rifle vs. Death by Meteor by bifrost on Wednesday October 16, 2019 @06:26PM (#21276672)
Its ableist to say that someone's choice to exercise free will is somehow coerced or violent because they suffer from depression and/or pain.

I certainly don't like suicide but I don't get to make that choice for other people.

Re:Murder by Rifle vs. Death by Meteor by RunningDroid on Wednesday October 16, 2019 @06:24PM (#21276650)
There should be a newline between "otherwise" and "I", but I don't have enough points to edit.
Re:Murder by Rifle vs. Death by Meteor by cwkoss on Wednesday October 16, 2019 @06:33PM (#21276733)
Police killed 992 people with guns in 2018 - ~37%