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Re:Pypy wants you - now's the time to start contributing to ... by gawker on Friday January 21, 2011 @10:05AM (#2127514)
I'd love to contribute (been looking for a Python project to contribute all this while) but I'm fairly new and haven't much a clue. I guess the best way to start is to get the project and play around with it but I was hoping if you have any advice?
Re:Pypy wants you - now's the time to start contributing to ... by kingkilr on Friday January 21, 2011 @11:55AM (#2127899)
Jump into #pypy on freenode, we're mostly working on getting our 2.7 implementation passing all tests (we merged that branch into defaul this week), so there are various tasks in: fixing our implementation of stdlib modules, interpreter level fixes, new methods on builtin types, and other sorts of things!
Re:Pypy wants you - now's the time to start contributing to ... by PureSin on Friday January 21, 2011 @01:35PM (#2128323)
read through some of the wiki. Guess I'll jump into the irc channel this weekend and ask questions as I go? Will people assign specific test/task to me or do I just pick a few?
Re:Pypy wants you - now's the time to start contributing to ... by djipko on Friday January 21, 2011 @10:16AM (#2127550)
This is exactly why this thing caught my eye. And this is not just a python project, but an interpreter for the language, so should give you a great experience with the language itself.
Re:Pypy wants you - now's the time to start contributing to ... by carlosedp on Friday January 21, 2011 @12:49PM (#2128131)
It would be great to have the JIT and Stackless features together.
Re:Pypy wants you - now's the time to start contributing to ... by baltcode on Friday January 21, 2011 @12:54PM (#2128148)
Does this also entail developing the rpython translator/compiler? Statically typed python is something I'm really interested in.
Re:Pypy wants you - now's the time to start contributing to ... by yycom on Friday January 21, 2011 @10:31PM (#2129825)
It seems to me that pypy is the obvious candidate for blessing as the new reference implementation (because it is self-hosted), but I never see any mention of this being so, with most next-gen effort still being spent on 3.x and CPython. Why is this so?
Re:Pypy wants you - now's the time to start contributing to ... by kingkilr on Friday January 21, 2011 @10:52PM (#2129855)
2 reasons IMO:

1) We don't have Python3 support yet, we're working towards it, but we're behind some. Have the reference implementation be a regression over the previous one doesn't make much sense.

2) We don't have enough users.

And honorable mention reason: RPython is an... interesting language to program, something like a cross between C, Python, Java, with error messages from MUMPS.

Re:Pypy wants you - now's the time to start contributing to ... by jbellis on Saturday January 22, 2011 @03:00AM (#2130160)
> error messages from MUMPS

Is fixing that tractable? Cryptic error messages is one of the most frustrating turn-offs to new would-be contributors.

/probably one of the few people here who has written MUMPS code

Re:Pypy wants you - now's the time to start contributing to ... by jb3 on Saturday January 22, 2011 @11:59AM (#2130616)
Of all the things that I dislike about MUMPS, error messages aren't anywhere near the top of the list.
Re:Pypy wants you - now's the time to start contributing to ... by kingkilr on Monday January 24, 2011 @02:59PM (#2136515)
Yes, it probably is. It's a bit of a chicken and egg situation though, everyone who knows RPython well enough to make the changes can already understand the errors just fine.
Re:Pypy wants you - now's the time to start contributing to ... by smanek on Saturday January 22, 2011 @08:33AM (#2130375)
heh, epic alum?
Re:Pypy wants you - now's the time to start contributing to ... by jb3 on Saturday January 22, 2011 @11:56AM (#2130609)
I'm currently at epic, but I know there are other companies still using the language.
Re:Pypy wants you - now's the time to start contributing to ... by agentultra on Friday January 21, 2011 @10:54AM (#2127672)
I've tried finding something to nibble on in PyPy for a while. I'll definitely give this a look-see over the weekend.
Re:Pypy wants you - now's the time to start contributing to ... by marquis on Friday January 21, 2011 @01:23PM (#2128273)
I clicked away when I saw the logo of Uncle Sam - that image references both a call to war and a US bias. Just wanted to point out my response, but other than that good luck with the project.
Re:Pypy wants you - now's the time to start contributing to ... by vietor on Friday January 21, 2011 @04:10PM (#2128899)
> and a US bias

If you'd stuck around you might have noticed that the project is, essentially, European. The main contributers all live there, they receive funding through Eurostars, and I don't remember any of their gatherings/sprints being held outside of Europe.

In the future you might want to watch that knee-jerk reaction, it can put your foot right in your mouth.

Given the history and imagery of "Uncle Sam", it becoming the equivalent of a genericized trademark cracks me up and makes me marvel at the longevity of a well crafted marketing shtick.

Re:Pypy wants you - now's the time to start contributing to ... by marquis on Friday January 21, 2011 @05:12PM (#2129135)
I did read the site further, and realised quickly it wasn't a US-centric group. I am by far a reactionary person and if it made me initially click away, I felt it was better to make a comment so the author could see it, rather than keeping it myself - considering the post is calling for collaboration.

The use of the image has remained culturally strong because of the many brilliant satirical treatments it has received, not because it is a powerful signifier calling for people to work together.

Re:Pypy wants you - now's the time to start contributing to ... by starpilot on Friday January 21, 2011 @10:05PM (#2129782)
You need to get out more.
Re:Pypy wants you - now's the time to start contributing to ... by VB6_Forever on Friday January 21, 2011 @07:07PM (#2129458)
Which came first, the Uncle Sam image or this one? http://www.sterlingtimes.org/kitchener.jpg
Re:Pypy wants you - now's the time to start contributing to ... by sp332 on Friday January 21, 2011 @07:43PM (#2129527)
Kitchener's poster was first. Uncle Sam may be the most famous, but lots of people have used it since. https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Lord_Kitchene...

EDIT: much cooler link http://www.artlebedev.com/mandership/154/

Re:Pypy wants you - now's the time to start contributing to ... by vietor on Friday January 21, 2011 @10:37PM (#2129835)
Nice link, thanks. It should have been obvious that "eye contact" and a pointing finger would be a very common theme.