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Re:Google and Ambient Computing by amelius on Wednesday October 16, 2019 @01:40PM (#21273068)
Isn't it time that Google grows up and becomes a true tech company? I consider products containing adware to be "half-broken" and I don't understand how Google engineers can feel proud of their work. As an engineer I want my work to be paid for because my users like my products, and I certainly wouldn't want any of my work to be used to serve anyone other than my users.
Re:Google and Ambient Computing by UncleMeat on Wednesday October 16, 2019 @02:36PM (#21273833)
Do you pay for YouTube premium? Options are there, but it seems like most users prefer ad supported content to paid content in many contexts.
Re:Google and Ambient Computing by IggleSniggle on Wednesday October 16, 2019 @11:05PM (#21278574)
Google Play Music is awesome. I love that I can keep my personal collection of rare MP3s there and have them in a convenient cloud player. Ad-free YouTube is just icing on the cake.
Re:Google and Ambient Computing by petra on Wednesday October 16, 2019 @02:32PM (#21273771)
Adware based products win in the marketplace.

Google can't change that.

At least the money from those adware products goes toward deep tech r&d. It could be worse.

Re:Google and Ambient Computing by amelius on Wednesday October 16, 2019 @05:18PM (#21275851)
Unless one day they take it a step too far, and the entire tracking-based monetization scheme is banned by the government or the EU. I hope they have a backup plan other than lobbying in the opposite direction.
Re:Google and Ambient Computing by v7p1Qbt1im on Wednesday October 16, 2019 @07:19PM (#21277142)
Why do you think they are pumping dozens of billions into cloud and especially AI? At its heart, according to the founders, Google is not a search company, and not an ad company. Their primary long term goal is the creation of real artificial intelligence. The ad business provides the money. The money buys the best people and all the infrastructure. The user-facing business provides the data. By all accounts you need a trillion dollar setup, as much talent as you can , and pretty much all the data in the world to get started.
Re:Google and Ambient Computing by cmroanirgo on Wednesday October 16, 2019 @02:15PM (#21273541)
Considering the thread about Google's Soli [0] has a huge number of votes, there's a clear sign that many are still heavily plugged into the borg. I'd suggest that even more would disagree with the suggestion that Google isn't a real tech company.

[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21269877

Re:Google and Ambient Computing by 0xffff2 on Wednesday October 16, 2019 @04:51PM (#21275472)
The topic might be heavily upvoted, but the overall sentiment in the comments in notably negative.
Re:Google and Ambient Computing by dvdbloc on Wednesday October 16, 2019 @02:29PM (#21273725)
Do you have an example of a “true tech company”?
Re:Google and Ambient Computing by nopriorarrests on Wednesday October 16, 2019 @03:17PM (#21274283)
Oracle fits this description nicely. :)
Re:Google and Ambient Computing by amelius on Wednesday October 16, 2019 @06:06PM (#21276467)
No that's a law firm :)
Re:Google and Ambient Computing by rdc12 on Thursday October 17, 2019 @12:01AM (#21278802)
And a strip and gut, tech acquisition company.
Re:Google and Ambient Computing by amelius on Wednesday October 16, 2019 @05:02PM (#21275655)
SpaceX, Intel, Microsoft, Nvidia, ...
Re:Google and Ambient Computing by moltensodium on Wednesday October 16, 2019 @02:52PM (#21273999)
AWS is the most true tech company out there I think, I wish there were a way for me to invest in it outside of the Amazon borg cube media conglomerate trying to fight Disney.