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Re:Blizzard Cancels Overwatch Event by falcolas on Tuesday October 15, 2019 @07:55PM (#21265460)
FWIW, there is no visible pressure that has been exhibited from China against Blizzard. There have been no statements from China either in support or condemnation of any of the involved actors.

The situation is entirely driven by Blizzard, for fear of their potential revenue stream out of China.

This is in contrast to the NBA scenario, where China did speak out against the NBA, and later began to cancel contracts.

Re:Blizzard Cancels Overwatch Event by themacguffinman on Tuesday October 15, 2019 @08:15PM (#21265622)
You can't say there is no visible pressure on Blizzard while mentioning the NBA in the same breath. China's aggressive move on the NBA is the pressure. It's an example to every company that operates in China: toe the party line, or face local obstruction like the NBA.
Re:Blizzard Cancels Overwatch Event by bitL on Tuesday October 15, 2019 @08:27PM (#21265718)
"If they could do that to NBA, what would they do to me?"
Re:Blizzard Cancels Overwatch Event by falcolas on Tuesday October 15, 2019 @08:35PM (#21265784)
Activision Blizzard is not a company that would be bankrupted by the loss of the Chinese market; they chose on their own merely for a potential future in that market.

That they chose to toe the party line on their own, without prompting from the Chinese government, with swift and overwhelming penalties on the player and shoutcasters doesn't exactly speak well for Blizzard.

Re:Blizzard Cancels Overwatch Event by themacguffinman on Tuesday October 15, 2019 @09:50PM (#21266259)
That's still "visible pressure". Not sure why it needs to be an extinction level threat for you to recognize it as overt Chinese pressure.

If I demonstrate to you that I'm going to shoot your legs if you don't tell me I'm pretty by doing so to people around you, and then I walk up to you and you tell me I'm pretty, would it be accurate to say you chose to tell me I'm pretty all on your own, totally unprompted? Can I say that you chose on your own merely for a potential future in walking? Hey, you won't be killed by the loss of your legs.

Re:Blizzard Cancels Overwatch Event by irq on Tuesday October 15, 2019 @08:21PM (#21265658)
You have literally no idea what might be being communicated in private between China and Blizzard. How can you make such a claim in good faith?
Re:Blizzard Cancels Overwatch Event by falcolas on Tuesday October 15, 2019 @08:25PM (#21265695)
By qualifying my statement with the word "visible", and presenting an almost identical case where there was visible feedback from China.

Why would China treat the (comparatively huge and influential) NBA one way, and (comparatively tiny) Blizzard another?

Re:Blizzard Cancels Overwatch Event by zucker42 on Tuesday October 15, 2019 @08:12PM (#21265590)
That's because Blizzard did the "right" thing in the government's view. Just because the influence isn't visible doesn't mean it's not there, and invisible influence may be even more pernicious.
Re:Blizzard Cancels Overwatch Event by falcolas on Tuesday October 15, 2019 @08:27PM (#21265708)
That doesn't diminish that it was purely Blizzard's decision in the end. Blizzard had a choice, and they picked censoring Blitzchung on their own.
Re:Blizzard Cancels Overwatch Event by zucker42 on Tuesday October 15, 2019 @10:29PM (#21266476)
So if the U.S. makes a law that fines companies for criticizing the president, and then Blizzard fires an employee for criticizing the president to avoid the fine, it's Blizzard's decision in the end and everything's fine? I don't know if you have considered the implications of this logic.
Re:Blizzard Cancels Overwatch Event by bitL on Tuesday October 15, 2019 @08:26PM (#21265707)
It's possible Blizzard is only surviving if they have access to Chinese market? We don't know their financials, management might be just prudent from their point of view in order to survive (people are way more obsessed with gaming in Eastern Asia than anywhere else and those regions have largest population). The management is certainly fully aware of the whole sh*tshow and likely aren't happy with whatever choice they have.
Re:Blizzard Cancels Overwatch Event by falcolas on Tuesday October 15, 2019 @08:30PM (#21265733)
Their statements to shareholders put the Chinese market at 10% of their total revenue. ATVI is posting billions of dollars in profits, and has a profit margin of 25%+.

Activision Blizzard is in no risk of going bankrupt even if they lose the entire Chinese market.

Re:Blizzard Cancels Overwatch Event by bitL on Tuesday October 15, 2019 @08:50PM (#21265902)
Good, then voting with one's valet should be a good strategy to bring them back to their senses, unless they are 100% into some Chinese-friendly business ideology. Blizzard is off my list, I might re-evaulate in 1 year.
Re:Blizzard Cancels Overwatch Event by belltaco on Tuesday October 15, 2019 @09:04PM (#21265985)
Funny that no one is talking about voting with their wallet by not buying Chinese products.
Re:Blizzard Cancels Overwatch Event by falcolas on Tuesday October 15, 2019 @09:31PM (#21266151)
Some people are. But since this article is explicitly about Blizzard, people are focusing on their actions with Blizzard.
Re:Blizzard Cancels Overwatch Event by belltaco on Tuesday October 15, 2019 @11:22PM (#21266761)
Can you point to some recentish posts where is there is such discussion?