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Re:Switzerland vs Silicon Valley for Software Developers by Nursie on Tuesday October 15, 2019 @12:50PM (#21260609)
> In other big metropolitan areas (Paris, London, etc.), the cost of living is at least a bit lower, but they're still major cities and not that cheap. And there salaries for engineers are even lower.

If you want decent pay in London you go contract, not perm, and head for the finance sector. You can make the equivalent of $150k-280k depending on how good you are at landing contracts and selling yourself.

AFAICT the situation is similar in western Europe (I get feelers out sometimes at lower but comparable rates for contract work in the Netherlands, Switzerland, Germany, Austria and Belgium).

Perm workers here are being ripped off IMHO, massively. But then the technical standard of the average perm worker at the average mid sized company in the UK is terrible too. It's a vicious feedback cycle of low pay, low respect for the profession and poor results. Perm work in mainland Europe is paid peanuts AFAICT, which is probably why so many find their way to London.

Some of this difference is down to costs and rights associated with work in the EU, which are just missing in the US. And part of the reason contracting is so lucrative is that we effectively opt-out of those.

Re:Switzerland vs Silicon Valley for Software Developers by ChuckNorris89 on Tuesday October 15, 2019 @12:59PM (#21260748)
May I ask where did you find good rates in Austria?
Re:Switzerland vs Silicon Valley for Software Developers by Nursie on Tuesday October 15, 2019 @01:09PM (#21260894)
I've never followed up on any of these because I'm not currently interested in leaving the UK. But a quick search of my inbox shows Graz is where most of the work is, and the latest rate I can find in any of the emails is €70 per hour.

If I were to take on this work through my Ltd company it would translate to a salary equivalent of around £101,000 or $130,000 US. What you actually get out of it probably depends on your exact tax situation I guess!

Most of the work in Austria that comes my way seems to be embedded systems or kernel work, though one or two are Java related.

Re:Switzerland vs Silicon Valley for Software Developers by ChuckNorris89 on Tuesday October 15, 2019 @01:18PM (#21261028)
Damn, I live in Graz and work in the embedded field and never get any contracting offers in my inbox.

Would you mind sharing some, maybe in private?

Re:Switzerland vs Silicon Valley for Software Developers by Nursie on Tuesday October 15, 2019 @01:24PM (#21261102)
I've put my email address in my profile info, temporarily. Ping me and I'll happily forward you a few of the more recent ones.
Re:Switzerland vs Silicon Valley for Software Developers by ChuckNorris89 on Tuesday October 15, 2019 @01:37PM (#21261273)
Pinged successful. Thanks! :)