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Re:5G Mobile Networks: A Systems Approach by mrtnmcc on Tuesday October 15, 2019 @12:07PM (#21260014)
Microwave ovens are not very narrowband and certainly do not excite 'rotational resonances of water'. The periodic burn marks on your cheese are from coarse standing waves within the microwave oven cavity (related to the magnetron resonance and spacing of the walls).. it has nothing to do with molecular resonances.

EDIT: the reason it cooks food is the intensity of the field strength (1 kilowatt per cubic ft, or ~27,000 watts per cubic meter) in a microwave oven. 5G signals are tens of microwatts (millionths of a watt) per cubic meter. That's a difference of a factor of 10's of billions.

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Re:5G Mobile Networks: A Systems Approach by missosoup on Tuesday October 15, 2019 @12:22PM (#21260227)
Please explain the mechanism for the 2.45Mhz microwave oven cooking food and how that rules out the possibility of the 5g band having unintended interactions with molecules found in living organisms. You can settle this debate for the EU and save them a few million bucks worth of studies.
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Re:5G Mobile Networks: A Systems Approach by gsich on Tuesday October 15, 2019 @04:18PM (#21263241)
power in a microwave oven: 1000 watt

power from your phone: 0.2 watt in case of LTE.

reveived power from a basestation: around -40 to -120 dbm.

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Re:5G Mobile Networks: A Systems Approach by missosoup on Tuesday October 15, 2019 @09:09PM (#21266017)
ERP of base station: up to 500W per channel.

You are 100% sure that will have absolutely no impact on insects or birds in close proximity to it?

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Re:5G Mobile Networks: A Systems Approach by gsich on Wednesday October 16, 2019 @02:38AM (#21267677)
More like 200W with LTE.

But even if it would be 500W, no haven't heared of it. Which does not mean that it could happen. But then again the question was not a) insects or birds or b) close proximity (which is what, close then 1m?)

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