Re:Google Announces Pixel 4
by stronglikedan on Tuesday October 15, 2019 @12:01PM
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I can unlock my phone with my fingerprint while pulling it out of my pocket, so that it's ready to use as soon as my gaze falls upon it. It takes two seconds longer with face unlock - one second to get it up to my face (and make sure it's aimed in just the right spot), and another second waiting for it to actually recognize me and unlock. Easier, faster, and, hence, more usable.
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>I can unlock my phone with my fingerprint while pulling it out of my pocket
This, I can do it without thinking.
Re:Google Announces Pixel 4
by jakebellacera on Tuesday October 15, 2019 @12:16PM
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The iPhone 11 has the second generation FaceID sensors which is much faster and has lower error rates (to the point that it's not very noticeable anymore). Also, while you do "lose" the TouchID sensor, all FaceID-equipped iPhones have tap to wake and raise to wake functionality which is much more useful than being able to unlock my phone in my pocket, IMO.
Re:Google Announces Pixel 4
by kennywinker on Tuesday October 15, 2019 @01:41PM
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Raise to wake is available on older non-FaceID phones. I think this feature was enabled by the M7 motion coprocessor chip https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_motion_coprocessors which first showed up in the iPhone 6.
Re:Google Announces Pixel 4
by jakebellacera on Monday October 21, 2019 @12:55PM
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Very cool, I did not know that.
Re:Google Announces Pixel 4
by chooseaname on Tuesday October 15, 2019 @12:25PM
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> ... than being able to unlock my phone in my pocket...
I see what you did there. But that's not what OP said.
Re:Google Announces Pixel 4
by chooseaname on Tuesday October 15, 2019 @12:07PM
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This is exactly why I bought an iPhone 8 earlier this year. The fingerprint reader combined with rest to open means my phone is ready to go before my eyes/face are anywhere near the screen. There simply is no competition (against face id) as far as speed is concerned.
Re:Google Announces Pixel 4
by dhruvmittal on Tuesday October 15, 2019 @12:16PM
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This might be a dumb question, but how does Face ID work with beards and other facial hair?
As far as I understand FaceID makes a "map" of your face using a series of sensors (including IR) that is then compared against with when unlocking the phone or using a FaceID compatible login in an app. The beard/facial hair is part of that map, and the way Apple designed FaceID is to learn details that slightly change over time like a beard growing. It does (from experience) fail if the change is drastic, such as shaving a long beard or being in direct sunlight when you haven't been in a long time, but you can then enter the PIN/password and it will learn the "new map data" of your face and will work during subsequent tries. I would guess it does somehow combine old and new data when you enter a PIN and update the map, as it doesn't get tripped up if you, for example, unlock your phone in direct sunlight and then unlock in lower light shortly after, but I can't be certain.
Would giving my pin to someone with a very similar face mean that over time my phone would start to map their face as mine?
Re:Google Announces Pixel 4
by CobrastanJorji on Tuesday October 15, 2019 @01:38PM
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I would guess that it would only add to the model if the new face is recognized by the existing model.