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Re:Switzerland vs Silicon Valley for Software Developers by config_yml on Tuesday October 15, 2019 @10:14AM (#21258545)
This is my experience as well. Even with > 10 years experience, it's hard to find engineering jobs paying > 120k.

> In Zurich, you can rent a whole flat (50+ square meters) for something between 2500-4000 CHF and if you are single and open to living with other people you can find a room in something called Wohngemeinde for as little as 800-1000 CHF.

Good luck if you have a family, it's ~4k for 4.5 rooms (100sqm).

Check the listings on the website, most of them cap out at 10k/month. That is gross, pre-tax. So net is about 8k max.

> Maybe it is because of the crunch work culture that squeezes out everything out of employees and only gives a payout to founders and VCs?

This is no different in Switzerland.

Re:Switzerland vs Silicon Valley for Software Developers by microtherion on Tuesday October 15, 2019 @04:21PM (#21263277)
>> In Zurich, [...] you can find a room in something called Wohngemeinde

This was an error in the original article, by the way. The correct word is "Wohngemeinschaft". "Wohngemeinde" means "city/town/village you're residing in".

> Good luck if you have a family, it's ~4k for 4.5 rooms (100sqm).

Well, yes and no. Rents can be quite high for new arrivals. But about 20% of rental apartments in Zürich are owned by non-profit Wohnbaugenossenschaften, where rents are a lot cheaper, rise very modestly, and as long as you're on good standing, you pretty much never get kicked out, but you need to get onto a waiting list for a number of months/years.

Re:Switzerland vs Silicon Valley for Software Developers by dt3ft on Tuesday October 15, 2019 @11:14AM (#21259295)
I know at least 6 other devs (backend, frontend, mobile) who work in Zurich that don't make it past 110k with 5+ years of experience.