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Re:The complicated ethics of Tesla’s Autopilot by mywacaday on Monday October 14, 2019 @12:29PM (#21250023)
I see a cost issue, easy to justify a full investigation every time a commercial plane crashes, how do you do a full investigation every time somebody crashes a car or is crashed into. How do you get the improvement loop that the airline industry had?
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Re:The complicated ethics of Tesla’s Autopilot by Someone1234 on Monday October 14, 2019 @12:36PM (#21250101)
I thought the topic was AutoPilot crashes, not all car crashes. Is AutoPilot crashing enough to be cost prohibitive?
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Re:The complicated ethics of Tesla’s Autopilot by netsharc on Monday October 14, 2019 @01:06PM (#21250386)
At least plane crashes are usually mechanical and not software, or it's straightforward software (hello MCAS), investigating a machine learning's system behavior ("what input lead it produce this output?") sounds like a more expensive problem.
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Re:The complicated ethics of Tesla’s Autopilot by mywacaday on Tuesday October 15, 2019 @05:54AM (#21256979)
Until you look you don't know if i was hardware, software, road conditions or user, unless you look its just a a pile of twisted metal.
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Re:The complicated ethics of Tesla’s Autopilot by Piskvorrr on Monday October 14, 2019 @12:50PM (#21250234)
Not currently. If we get to mixed 50/50 traffic...possibly. (Saying "but won't happen, because magic future technology" would be literal handwaving)
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Re:The complicated ethics of Tesla’s Autopilot by jfk13 on Monday October 14, 2019 @01:04PM (#21250373)
If we required full investigations now, while the numbers are small enough for it to be feasible, then perhaps by the time we get to 50/50 traffic, the technology will be that much better.
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Re:The complicated ethics of Tesla’s Autopilot by wongarsu on Monday October 14, 2019 @02:24PM (#21251235)
We already investigate nearly every car crash, it's just that we usually find one of the drivers at fault instead of one of the car manufacturers. The resources are there, currently provided mostly through police and insurance agencies.
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