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Re:China's New Cybersecurity Program: No Place to Hide by Peckingjay on Monday October 14, 2019 @05:50AM (#21246519)
If such policies are truly enforced, there seems to be little to stop China from stealing absolutely all the technical know-how of a foreign company installed there and supplant it with one of their own later on. It really feels like they're pushing how much companies are willing to bear to get access to China's market and manufacturing capabilities to the limit.
Re:China's New Cybersecurity Program: No Place to Hide by StreamBright on Monday October 14, 2019 @05:53AM (#21246530)
And why would they not? The west for a very long time favoured the CEOs and share holders over general population when it comes to globalisation. China exploits that as much as they can.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/mikecollins/2015/05/06/the-pros...

It is quite amazing that you cannot voice anything on HN anymore without being downvoted, regardless if you literary quoting wikipedia or basic economics.

Re:China's New Cybersecurity Program: No Place to Hide by Peckingjay on Monday October 14, 2019 @06:05AM (#21246586)
I am aware that China has had no qualms to rig the game in its favor so far. Those measures would take it up on a whole new level though. I'm just not sure how many companies will be willing to abide by having almost all the data from their operations in China available to the government, unless they don't have other viable options, even though these might be a lot more expensive.
Re:China's New Cybersecurity Program: No Place to Hide by mattnewton on Monday October 14, 2019 @03:56PM (#21252150)
I’m not sure I agree that the “west” is a monolithic bloc re: the general population vs shareholders/CEOs. Especially not in the current wave of popularism.

Also, from the HN guidelines - “ Please don't comment about the voting on comments. It never does any good, and it makes boring reading.” (And I definitely agree when it is some anecdote like this)

Re:China's New Cybersecurity Program: No Place to Hide by StreamBright on Monday October 14, 2019 @05:20PM (#21253030)
I guess you haven't read the Forbes article.

The west is pretty much a monolithic bloc when it comes to foreign policy towards China, Middle-East & Africa. A great example of that is the current events in Syria.

You can also have a look at UN resolutions and try to see a pattern.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_Nations_Securit...

NATO is also pretty good definition of the west with the exception of Turkey, even though missing few countries (like Finland and Sweden).

Re:China's New Cybersecurity Program: No Place to Hide by matz1 on Monday October 14, 2019 @09:02AM (#21247770)
I think it goes both ways, it will be little to stop foreign company from stealing absolutely all the technical know-how of a chinese company.
Re:China's New Cybersecurity Program: No Place to Hide by blaser-waffle on Monday October 14, 2019 @09:12AM (#21247847)
They have to be bringing know-how, first. Right now it's mostly a one-way transfer. This may change in the future, though.
Re:China's New Cybersecurity Program: No Place to Hide by generatorguy on Monday October 14, 2019 @06:33PM (#21253577)
There will be a breach eventually and all data of all people and companies existing or operating in China will be public.