Re:How to make Linux run fast again on Intel CPUs
by gameswithgo on Sunday October 13, 2019 @12:58PM
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they are rapidly losing market share to amd right now
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Re:How to make Linux run fast again on Intel CPUs
by cheez on Sunday October 13, 2019 @02:24PM
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Intel has been here before, they will persevere. I type this using a AMD CPU.
Re:How to make Linux run fast again on Intel CPUs
by Godel_unicode on Sunday October 13, 2019 @02:26PM
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Is that true in server chips? I know AMD has gotten design wins from e.g. Microsoft Surface, but I've seen nothing to indicate an appreciable change in server sales.
Re:How to make Linux run fast again on Intel CPUs
by jagger27 on Sunday October 13, 2019 @05:35PM
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It is especially true in server chips. AMD offers double the cores per watt of TDP at roughly half the price at the same IPC.
Re:How to make Linux run fast again on Intel CPUs
by p1necone on Sunday October 13, 2019 @05:46PM
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Have they actually gained much market share in the server space though - big corps don't move very quickly, even when the options are way more competitive. "Nobody ever got fired for choosing Intel" and so on.
Re:How to make Linux run fast again on Intel CPUs
by shifto on Monday October 14, 2019 @05:07AM
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Dell and HP are having trouble sourcing Intel CPU's and started rolling out way more AMD machines. Customers needing a new machines don't have a lot of options and has resulted in AMD having about 1% server market share to about 10% in just months.
Re:How to make Linux run fast again on Intel CPUs
by jagger27 on Sunday October 13, 2019 @06:42PM
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The thing about Intel’s sales dept is that they are able to muscle big clients with incentives from their “make comp” fund. Remember the lawsuit from years ago about Intel paying Dell not to buy AMD products? They’re still doing that, and haven’t paid that fine yet.
Re:How to make Linux run fast again on Intel CPUs
by p1necone on Sunday October 13, 2019 @09:07PM
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Surely if they have the funds to bribe companies into picking intel, they could instead be using that money to make their offerings on par with AMD $/performance wise instead?
Re:How to make Linux run fast again on Intel CPUs
by guenthert on Monday October 14, 2019 @12:39PM
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Well, I'm not sure what to make of these "cores per watt of TDP" and I suspect few will. SPEC has the "power" benchmark, measuring the performance of a Java server and relating it to the electrical power needed for that.
Seems to me that systems based on AMD's EPYC are doing considerably better in this benchmark than those using Intel CPUs: http://spec.org/power_ssj2008/results/res2019q3/
Re:How to make Linux run fast again on Intel CPUs
by zaarn on Monday October 14, 2019 @09:22AM
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Atleast from what I've seen in SMB; we have been buying AMD. Plenty of AMD. For our servers.
Re:How to make Linux run fast again on Intel CPUs
by Guthur on Sunday October 13, 2019 @06:19PM
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It is a perfect opportunity for AMD, unfortunately it looks like there isn't the manufacturing capacity at TSMC on 7nm for them to fully exploit the situation.
The recent delays and high prices in high-end consumer ryzen appears to point to AMD trying to satisfy and increasingly high demand for rome epyc.