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Re:Apple's list of 235 apps that are incompatible with macOS... by Smithalicious on Saturday October 12, 2019 @10:00PM (#21237789)
This idea that "6+" years old is particularly old really irks me, because it's not. Most other things in my life that I rely on last longer than that. I also occasionally need to run software that's older than that.

6 years isn't nearly long enough to even consider dropping support on the OS level. Try twice that.

Re:Apple's list of 235 apps that are incompatible with macOS... by filesystem on Saturday October 12, 2019 @10:15PM (#21237841)
Apple is not looking at 6 year old applications and saying “It’s been long enough, time to drop support for this app”. They are looking at the 30+ year old architecture that is 32-bit x86.
Re:Apple's list of 235 apps that are incompatible with macOS... by alwillis on Sunday October 13, 2019 @03:27AM (#21238975)
Look, everyone knows how Apple rolls when it comes to operating systems--they kill old APIs, frameworks, and even entire classes of apps on a pretty regular basis.

No mainstream operating system that ran on 68000 processors in the 80's, PowerPC in the 90's and Intel since 2006 is even around today.

Y’all must have forgot how NeXTStep, which later became Mac OS X and now macOS ran on 68000, Sparc and MIPS back in the day.

The same way Apple was running Mac OS X on Intel hardware long before the first Intel Macs were released, there's got to be Arm-based MacBooks or Mac minis running macOS right now.

So it makes sense for Apple to get rid of as much technical debt as they can before making that jump.

And because of Catalyst, which enables iPad apps to be ported to macOS, there will be more apps for the Mac.

Some of the Catalyst apps have some rough edges and not all of the frameworks are available yet, but things look promising: https://9to5mac.com/2019/10/07/macos-catalina-catalyst-apps/.

Finally, Apple has been telling developers since Snow Leopard was released in 2009 about transitioning to 64-bit.

Re:Apple's list of 235 apps that are incompatible with macOS... by speedplane on Sunday October 13, 2019 @03:30AM (#21238990)
> Look, everyone knows how Apple rolls when it comes to operating systems--they kill old APIs, frameworks, and even entire classes of apps on a pretty regular basis.

Every platform has to balance the developer experience with the user experience. Microsoft, with their incredible backwards compatibility support, has one approach, whereas Apple has a very different one.

There is no right or wrong way.

Re:Apple's list of 235 apps that are incompatible with macOS... by AndriyKunitsyn on Sunday October 13, 2019 @12:04AM (#21238286)
Who cares? At the end of the day, what matters is people’s stuff that they paid for is broken.
Re:Apple's list of 235 apps that are incompatible with macOS... by sbuk on Sunday October 13, 2019 @04:23AM (#21239214)
That’s a rather simplistic view of things. The long and the short of it is this; it’s not Apple’s responsibility to to ensure Adobe’s software runs on their platform, it’s Adobe’s and Adobe no longer support CS6.
Re:Apple's list of 235 apps that are incompatible with macOS... by noisem4ker on Sunday October 13, 2019 @07:29AM (#21239828)
What is a computer if not a place for software to run on? Is it not part of the producer's responsibility to make sure software runs fine on their platform? The bond goes both ways.
Re:Apple's list of 235 apps that are incompatible with macOS... by sbuk on Sunday October 13, 2019 @03:08PM (#21242226)
Simply put, no! Certainly not if the developer of the non-functioning software no-longer supports it.
Re:Apple's list of 235 apps that are incompatible with macOS... by mrpippy on Sunday October 13, 2019 @07:53AM (#21239899)
It’s more the 20-year old Carbon API set (parts of which are 30+ years old like QuickDraw) than x86 itself. Apple doesn’t get to drop x86 support from Intel’s silicon (like they did with 32-bit ARM on iOS).