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Re:Larry Wall has approved renaming Perl 6 to Raku by cutler on Saturday October 12, 2019 @12:41AM (#21230730)
Even if GraalVM fixes startup times aren't JVM languages just too long-winded for scripting? Perl, Python and Ruby dominate the scripting world for a reason - standard libraries for file, dir and pathname manipulation written in a concise language. Scripting is a style of coding, not just a means to an end. It is here that dynamic languages excel. Clojure is the leanest of the JVMs but doesn't it still rely on Java for file, dir and pathname manipulation?
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Re:Larry Wall has approved renaming Perl 6 to Raku by dragonwriter on Saturday October 12, 2019 @01:59AM (#21230971)
> Even if GraalVM fixes startup times aren't JVM languages just too long-winded for scripting? Perl, Python and Ruby dominate the scripting world for a reason

Ruby is a JVM language, in that JRuby is a very complete competitive, current, and widely-used-in-production Ruby implementation.

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Re:Larry Wall has approved renaming Perl 6 to Raku by cutler on Saturday October 12, 2019 @11:06AM (#21233702)
By JVM languages I really meant those designed originally for the JVM, ie. Java, Clojure, Scala, Kotlin & Groovy.
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Re:Larry Wall has approved renaming Perl 6 to Raku by dragonwriter on Saturday October 12, 2019 @03:28PM (#21235611)
Even so, Clojure and Groovy aren't particularly long-winded, nor is Scala despite static typing.
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Re:Larry Wall has approved renaming Perl 6 to Raku by zmmmmm on Saturday October 12, 2019 @04:24PM (#21235958)
You should definitely educate yourself about Groovy. It's my favorite scripting language, particularly because it enables a true scripting style, but actually works well as a full application development language too (though I would always want a backbone of static typed code).
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Re:Larry Wall has approved renaming Perl 6 to Raku by slifin on Saturday October 12, 2019 @06:44AM (#21232046)
It relies on the implementation of its runtime, JVM, .net, JavaScript, BeamVM etc but uses it's own language for those operations, slurp/barf etc

So as a developer it's all the same until you start leveraging the features of your particular runtime but this does make code sharing viable

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Re:Larry Wall has approved renaming Perl 6 to Raku by davidw on Saturday October 12, 2019 @12:49AM (#21230759)
There are JVM versions of Python, Ruby and Tcl, so it's not really about the VM itself.
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