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Re:Twitter, Facebook, WhatsApp and Instagram Restricted in S... by dmix on Friday October 11, 2019 @02:51PM (#21227242)
The only good argument IMO is that the Kurd's YPG won't distance themselves from the (actual) PKK terrorists. If they made steps to do so then Turkey wouldn't have nearly as good of a justification and I wonder if this would be different. Although I'm doubtful Turkey would still make that distinction.

The border security argument is a bit weak. You shouldn't need to cross a border to defend a border.

Re:Twitter, Facebook, WhatsApp and Instagram Restricted in S... by p4bl0 on Friday October 11, 2019 @10:00PM (#21230089)
The fact that the PKK is a terrorist organization is not at all a given. It is propaganda pushed by the Turkish government. The US government follows and so NATO too but without real ground for it (other than disliking communists a lot, I mean). The UN does not consider the PKK as a terrorist organization, and the EU Court ruled that it should be removed for the terrorist organizations list.
Re:Twitter, Facebook, WhatsApp and Instagram Restricted in S... by dmix on Saturday October 12, 2019 @12:17AM (#21230641)
I follow this stuff pretty closely. Any organization that suicide bombs civilian areas is a terrorist IMO.

The EU, NATO, Japan, etc didn't start using that designation for nothing.

PKK also had an estimated 3000 child soldiers which were also used for terror operations and in combat in Syria: https://hrwf.eu/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/Child-soldiers-in...

Re:Twitter, Facebook, WhatsApp and Instagram Restricted in S... by lostlogin on Saturday October 12, 2019 @01:44PM (#21234848)
Both sides are using terrorism on civilians but the label doesn’t stick when the explosives come from a plane or gun barrel. Both sides are US allies and this can be solved with pressure from other states too.
Re:Twitter, Facebook, WhatsApp and Instagram Restricted in S... by dmix on Saturday October 12, 2019 @10:37PM (#21237938)
The "both sides" diversionary tactic doesn't help anyone in these debates. It's the favourite excuse of every dictator and bad guy.

The radical Kurds aren't going to win anything by engaging in it nor will the more moderate Kurdish groups gain anything by quietly supporting them.

Turkey has much to lose in the years to come by exposing their soldiers in Kurdish majority areas and they are only further alienating themselves from Europe and the world, especially if they get too zealous in the process. They haven't even faced any real resistance yet since they focused on Arab areas first. Their decision making won't be without cost.

There's no way this will be easy ride for them. Nothing in the middle east is ever like that. This is just downtime between the next major conflict. There's only so much to gain for anyone involved.

Re:Twitter, Facebook, WhatsApp and Instagram Restricted in S... by enriquto on Sunday October 13, 2019 @03:30PM (#21242383)
> The only good argument IMO is that the Kurd's YPG won't distance themselves from the (actual) PKK terrorists.

It is not logical to call some people terrorists when they are being massacred by a large professional army and try to defend themselves by whatever means they have. If the kurdish nation exists in 50 years, today's "terrorists" will be remembered fondly, just as the glorious french resistance is.

Re:Twitter, Facebook, WhatsApp and Instagram Restricted in S... by jacobush on Friday October 11, 2019 @07:58PM (#21229468)
YPG would still be mainly Kurds. So Erdogan would find a reason to kill them.