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Re:Tim Cook’s Company-Wide Email on Hkmap.live Doesn’t Add Up by jplayer01 on Thursday October 10, 2019 @06:02PM (#21219640)
This is exactly what authoritarian governments do. They muddy the truth and make official and important sounding institutions make official statements that paint a situation in exactly they need it to be to further their own goals. I don’t understand how anybody can trust any information that comes out of the Hong Kong Cybersecurity and Technology Crime Bureau when the whole issue is that the HK government is no longer independent.

And beyond the actions of the Chinese government, corporations like Apple have no integrity upon which to base trust for them anymore. They need to cough up real proof instead some canned response that basically tells us to trust them on blind faith alone.

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Re:Tim Cook’s Company-Wide Email on Hkmap.live Doesn’t Add Up by scarface74 on Friday October 11, 2019 @07:40AM (#21223350)
This is exactly what authoritarian governments do. They muddy the truth and make official and important sounding institutions make official statements that paint a situation in exactly they need it to be to further their own goals.

And how is this different than the current American administration?

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Re:Tim Cook’s Company-Wide Email on Hkmap.live Doesn’t Add Up by jplayer01 on Friday October 11, 2019 @09:11AM (#21223974)
The difference is that there is media that is free enough to speak out about how the administration is lying. There are institutions that can resist, whoever little, and reveal the truth in some way. You have none of this in China. Companies, media, individuals, government institutions - all are beholden to the CCP in a way that prevents any kind of accountability, transparency and responsibility.

The US is currently a clusterfuck, yes. But if they were anything like China, the media would be in a blackout, thousands of political enemies would be sent to gulags and people across the board would be losing their jobs for speaking out.

To pretend that the US is in any way comparable is such an absurd distortion of reality, and really plays into China's narrative. Why criticize China if the US is just as bad ?

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Re:Tim Cook’s Company-Wide Email on Hkmap.live Doesn’t Add Up by lowatt on Friday October 11, 2019 @03:50AM (#21222374)
So, news in a non-authoritarian country are all truth? Non-authoritarian gov never “muddy the truth and make official and important sounding institutions make official statements that paint a situation in exactly they need it to be to further their own goals” ?
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Re:Tim Cook’s Company-Wide Email on Hkmap.live Doesn’t Add Up by kkarakk on Friday October 11, 2019 @05:39AM (#21222788)
It can atleast be independently verified. Nothing coming out of the chinese govt's mouth in these circumstances can ever be independently verified
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Re:Tim Cook’s Company-Wide Email on Hkmap.live Doesn’t Add Up by SmellyGeekBoy on Friday October 11, 2019 @07:34AM (#21223324)
This whataboutism doesn't disprove any of the GP's claims.
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