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Re:Cameras Could Replace Car Mirrors? by bakies on Thursday October 10, 2019 @04:20PM (#21218757)
You can also curve mirrors for a wider angle, see it on trucks all the time.
Re:Cameras Could Replace Car Mirrors? by OrwellianChild on Thursday October 10, 2019 @04:42PM (#21218941)
The point is, switching to cameras has aerodynamic efficiencies. Mirrors are currently a necessary cost that cameras could replace to improve drag coefficients, improve fuel economy/range, etc. OP's concern was that the cameras would not provide sufficient substitution for the mirror's features. I'm arguing that wide field of view solves that problem.
Re:Cameras Could Replace Car Mirrors? by raiyu on Thursday October 10, 2019 @06:44PM (#21219942)
If you are removing mirrors to improve aerodynamic efficiency that's the same as making a 1 gallon gas tank and saying the car will have better performance because it has a better power to weight ratio.

True in theory, but actual practicality near zero.

We aren't racing formula1 cars on the highway, so a mirror isn't really slowing you down that much and creating drag. Especially when you think about how much surface area it occupies versus the actual car itself.

Re:Cameras Could Replace Car Mirrors? by mikeyouse on Thursday October 10, 2019 @07:12PM (#21220145)
This isn't well informed -- Mirrors are a substantial source of increased drag. Something like 5% of the air resistance of a vehicle comes from the outside mirrors -- over the life of a car, that's worth several hundred gallons of gas, and across the population of cars, several billions of dollars in savings to consumers. I fret about the longevity of the technical solutions (mirrors on cars from the 60s work as well today as they did when they were installed) but it could be a huge boon.
Re:Cameras Could Replace Car Mirrors? by fingerlocks on Thursday October 10, 2019 @11:08PM (#21221213)
Wouldn’t removing the front mirrors cause helmholtz resonance[1], aka annoying “window drums”, when the front window is rolled down? If you’ve ever driven with only the rear windows down you’ll know what I’m talking about.

[1] https://jalopnik.com/why-do-slightly-opened-car-windows-make...

Re:Cameras Could Replace Car Mirrors? by Piskvorrr on Friday October 11, 2019 @08:27AM (#21223630)
If you're doing that, you have introduced a far larger source of turbulence than the mirrors ever could produce.
Re:Cameras Could Replace Car Mirrors? by fingerlocks on Friday October 11, 2019 @02:15PM (#21226944)
If you're doing what? I don't follow
Re:Cameras Could Replace Car Mirrors? by kjeetgill on Saturday October 12, 2019 @09:15PM (#21237574)
Driving with the windows down at freeway speeds.
Re:Cameras Could Replace Car Mirrors? by mrfusion on Thursday October 10, 2019 @07:06PM (#21220108)
On the contrary:

”They can account for as much as three to six percent of the total aerodynamic drag of a car. That may not sound like a lot, but it adds up. Over the course of 200,000 miles, that could cost you as much as $2,000. A study of big trucks (with really humongous mirrors) found they can add a whopping 10 percent to drag.“

(0) https://www.cartalk.com/blogs/staff-blog/what-drag-time-get-...

Re:Cameras Could Replace Car Mirrors? by raiyu on Friday October 11, 2019 @12:19PM (#21225799)
That's accounting for the higher end of the 3-6% drag. Also speed is critical, because the aerodynamic effect is exponential with speed so unless you are traveling above 80mph it's barely impacting anything. Sure if you are on the Autobahn it will be higher at 100mph+ but this is a bit of an optimistic guess on their part.

Also, these car mirrors after 200,000 miles will still work. I don't know if the car "video" mirrors will be operational after 200,000 miles so the cost of replacing them can easily out run the "fuel savings" that you would expect.

Lastly, there is something that car manufacturers lose when they move away from the physical world. The parallax effect is one that others have pointed out as a key benefit that would be lost, the fact that I can get a rain spot on my mirror and still see clearly, but if there is water on my rear parking camera I see nothing is something else that needs to be considered.

Progress is great, but at some point you realize you are actually degrading the experience not improving it. The Tesla has a great big iPad to control the car, but guess what, it is super distracting, because there are no physical knobs to touch so anytime you change a setting you are forced to look down. Because there are no physical knobs your finger can not rest on anything so as you are driving on the road any bump or jolt moves your finger which makes it much harder to hit the key you want. This leads to more distraction.

Just because you can doesn't always mean you should.

Re:Cameras Could Replace Car Mirrors? by beached_whale on Thursday October 10, 2019 @06:21PM (#21219778)
So could another camera in the car that watches the drivers head and adjusts the view based on movements. It could also be better too as you can now be comfortable and not contorted to get a proper view(even better than adjusting the mirror). It could also be disabled to provide a stead view. With a touch screen we could stay focused on a target too.

Camera's provide more options

Re:Cameras Could Replace Car Mirrors? by kube-system on Thursday October 10, 2019 @04:29PM (#21218842)
Or on the passenger side mirror of any average passenger car made over the past half century or so:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Objects_in_mirror_are_closer_t...

Re:Cameras Could Replace Car Mirrors? by SideburnsOfDoom on Friday October 11, 2019 @04:19AM (#21222469)
> You can also curve mirrors for a wider angle, see it on trucks all the time.

Yes, but with a wide-angle lens camera you can convert to a less distorted view in software. Or stitch together with other views.