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Re:Some corals regrow after 'fatal' warming by mikestew on Thursday October 10, 2019 @10:41AM (#21215044)
Nature, as a whole, is full of equilibrium, but single species try to maximize their survival in any way possible. We are not that different. We are only conscious of what we are doing.

Someone fucking up the environment to garner an extra $100K or two on that annual bonus isn't doing it for survival. Wolves aren't taking down entire herds of deer they'll never eat so that they can say they have more rotting deer meat than the other wolf packs. Domestic house cats are the only animals that I can think of that demonstrate such behavior, with the modifier "domestic" being emphasised; i. e., we made them like us. (Yeah, that last bit is a stretch.)

I'm sure there exist other species that hoard, just because...well, we can't be the only ones. But we're the ones with the mechanized means to do at destructive scale.

Re:Some corals regrow after 'fatal' warming by c048 on Thursday October 10, 2019 @11:12AM (#21215399)
You are wrong, there have been plenty observation of pointless killing across multiple other species. Look up surplus killing. We only differ in that we are far more effective compared to other animals.

In addition, we've also shown to be capable of far more empathy towards others of our own race and others, compared to any other species out there.

The simple truth is that if any other species had the destructive potential that we have, they would simply exterminate themselves without ever questioning their actions. So don't be so damn vindictive of humans when comparing us to animals.

Re:Some corals regrow after 'fatal' warming by kipchak on Thursday October 10, 2019 @01:15PM (#21216974)
Squirrels and birds seem to have a selected desire to horde nuts in a similar way to people hoarding extra resources for lean times. Cache Spacing or having various hordes of food spaced around in hidden locations seems like a rough analogy for having various Swiss bank accounts and the like. Ravens in particular are clever and will deceive potential raiders by moving caches, and raiders will try and appear disinterested.

As an aside cats are slightly odd for domestic animals as they're arguably semi-domesticated versus dogs or farm animals. African Wildcats look and act a lot like house cats in videos and are genetically similar, which I think is part of what makes them fun as pets.

https://www.livescience.com/53571-suspicious-ravens-detect-t...

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4260561/

Re:Some corals regrow after 'fatal' warming by gerbilly on Thursday October 10, 2019 @04:48PM (#21219011)
Most squirrels are scatter hoarders: almost everyone's seen a squirrel bury a nut in a lawn. They bury their nuts all over their territory and remember the locations and retrieve them later.

What you might not know, is that in old growth oak forests, most trees were accidentally planted by squirrels.

The acorns that they forgot and didn't retrieve, sprouted and grew into oak trees.

So the analogy of a squirrel as ruthless acquisitor is not quite apt, because their manner of caching their hoard actually helps to plant the next generation of trees.

(Acorns do not sprout as well when the just fall to the ground.)

Re:Some corals regrow after 'fatal' warming by kortilla on Thursday October 10, 2019 @11:55AM (#21215969)
> Someone fucking up the environment to garner an extra $100K or two on that annual bonus

Nobody gets paid just to fuck up the environment. They get paid to increase sales or whatever and the consumers are buying their shit to help them survive in one form or another.