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Re:Ken Thompson's Unix Password by loeg on Wednesday October 09, 2019 @06:45PM (#21208998)
Yes, a good defense against a charge of burglary would be not having stolen anything. In an imaginary perfect criminal justice system, charges/penalties are based on damage done. Less damage done is a lesser crime.
Re:Ken Thompson's Unix Password by blackflame on Wednesday October 09, 2019 @06:49PM (#21209027)
I was expelled for the same reason and here's what the school admins said about it. https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/pomerado-news/sdpn-rbhs...
Re:Ken Thompson's Unix Password by ambicapter on Wednesday October 09, 2019 @07:15PM (#21209244)
> In an imaginary perfect criminal justice system, charges/penalties are based on damage done.

Hell no. Otherwise you could just set up one gigantic crime by comitting a bunch of small "no damage done" crimes along the way-say, stealing a string of credentials one at a time, but not actually using them until you have all of them together and then you commit your major heist/crime.

Re:Ken Thompson's Unix Password by brigandish on Wednesday October 09, 2019 @08:52PM (#21209854)
Mens rea is an important consideration so it's not just about damage done (though the fear a key could be used in pursuit of a worse crime is also a harm) but the intent/recklessness of an act.
Re:Ken Thompson's Unix Password by lazyasciiart on Thursday October 10, 2019 @02:45AM (#21211629)
Well, the imaginary perfect criminal justice system would probably arrest you right as you had completely committed to causing the damage, instead of afterwards. But it should still be justifying the arrest based on the act that caused damage, not the harmless acts that set you up to be ready to do it.
Re:Ken Thompson's Unix Password by dual_basis on Thursday October 10, 2019 @08:10AM (#21213506)
Ah, like Minority Report
Re:Ken Thompson's Unix Password by loeg on Thursday October 10, 2019 @01:19PM (#21217013)
The crime in this hypothetical degrades from Burglary to Trespass, not "no crime."
Re:Ken Thompson's Unix Password by rplst8 on Wednesday October 23, 2019 @08:59PM (#21340660)
Trespass is not a crime per se. It's a tortious act. Criminal trespassing is when you commit trespassing when specifically told to leave and you don't or do it again.
Re:Ken Thompson's Unix Password by Mirioron on Wednesday October 09, 2019 @08:09PM (#21209566)
Lesser punishment doesn't mean no punishment. Furthermore, you can always argue that the intent is to commit a major crime.
Re:Ken Thompson's Unix Password by vangelis on Friday October 11, 2019 @05:39PM (#21228744)
A burglar might kill someone, book them on home invasion charges even if the house was empty.