Re:IRS issues additional guidance on tax treatment for crypt...
by shiado on Wednesday October 09, 2019 @05:58PM
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This generates a lot of additional questions. What about a multisig situation? Can I have a buddy withhold a digital signature until I want to transact so that I did not own the crypto up until the transaction? Add in multiple jurisdictions of private key holders and things could get really interesting. Maybe it would be possible to pay no taxes at all! What about exchange coins where the person has no private keys and hence owns no crypto at all? Would they still have to pay taxes on crypto they clearly don't possess? What an absolute mess.
Re:IRS issues additional guidance on tax treatment for crypt...
by rsclient on Wednesday October 09, 2019 @07:30PM
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Lots of IRS regs are about the common case, not weird cases.
As an analogy: if I get paid by check on december 30th, and the check doesn't clear until january 2nd, is the income for the old year, or the new year? What if I hold onto the check, waiting for the new year? How about if I have the check, but I'm snowed in, and can't get to the bank? What if I can get to the bank on december 30th, but the bank is snowed in and closed?
(Answers: old year, old year, and then two don't knows)
Re:IRS issues additional guidance on tax treatment for crypt...
by nullc on Wednesday October 09, 2019 @05:23PM
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That language comes from https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Commissioner_of_Internal_Reve... ... and unfortunately that particular case seems to be of no help clarifying many of the relevant issues.
> even if you have no desire to touch it in any way.
Not just desire, in most cases people don't even know about most of the cryptocurrency forks!
Re:IRS issues additional guidance on tax treatment for crypt...
by ssalka on Wednesday October 09, 2019 @05:35PM
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What about the (unlikely) case that a wallet is shared between 2 or more individuals? Could I then "share" my private key with a trusted person (e.g. a parent) and claim _not_ to have complete dominion over the gains, thus no gross income?
Re:IRS issues additional guidance on tax treatment for crypt...
by baobabKoodaa on Wednesday October 09, 2019 @06:02PM
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So, according to the IRS, if you keep your crypto on an exchange, the exchange owns it, since it has complete dominion over the private keys. Taken literally, this would mean you wouldn't have to pay any taxes on it.
If you are the sole possessor of a private key which grants control of a cryptocurrency address then you have complete dominion over the crypto at that address. Under situation 2 of the guidance: "B has dominion and control of Crypto S at the time of the airdrop, when it is recorded on the distributed ledger, because B immediately has the ability to dispose of Crypto S."
Taken in the most taxpayer hostile interpretation that means that if the ledger is duplicated you have income because you have the ability to dispose of the forked coin with your private key even if you have no desire to touch it in any way.