Re:'We good now China?' South Park creators issue mock apology
by laheyBro on Tuesday October 08, 2019 @11:34AM
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What a ridiculous statement. The US is the least oppressed society in history. Especially for women and minorities.
Re:'We good now China?' South Park creators issue mock apology
by dekhn on Tuesday October 08, 2019 @11:41AM
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there were laws through the 1960s and I think even later that prevents african americans and other non-caucasians from marrying caucasians.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loving_v._Virginia required Supreme Court to override laws that violated the constitution.
If that's your standard for "least oppressed", I think your standards are very low.
Re:'We good now China?' South Park creators issue mock apology
by laheyBro on Tuesday October 08, 2019 @11:46AM
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Believe it or not, a lot of things have changed since the 60's. Name a society with more rights, more opportunities for the historically oppressed. Deny reality all you want, you're only hurting yourself.
Re:'We good now China?' South Park creators issue mock apology
by jessaustin on Tuesday October 08, 2019 @01:26PM
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Canada? Anywhere in western/northern Europe?
Re:'We good now China?' South Park creators issue mock apology
by mikestew on Tuesday October 08, 2019 @11:45AM
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The US is the least oppressed society in history.
What is ridiculous is to think that is an argument against the truth of parent's statement.
Re:'We good now China?' South Park creators issue mock apology
by laheyBro on Tuesday October 08, 2019 @11:49AM
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The parent statement is objectively not truth.
Re:'We good now China?' South Park creators issue mock apology
by klyrs on Tuesday October 08, 2019 @12:12PM
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You're attempting to refute an absolute statement with a relative one; "--- are oppressed" / "--- are less oppressed than ever." These two statements are logically consistent.
I question your definition of "objectively" in this situation
Re:'We good now China?' South Park creators issue mock apology
by mikestew on Tuesday October 08, 2019 @11:59AM
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Of the your two comments thus far, neither is even remotely what one might call a counter-argument. "Nuh-uh!" does not count. There's still time to edit the comment, care to throw me something more substantial to work with?
Re:'We good now China?' South Park creators issue mock apology
by danso on Tuesday October 08, 2019 @12:55PM
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What does "least oppressed society", a comparative term, have to do with the claims made by the parent commenter? That designation does not preclude the existence of any disparity or injustice.
Re:'We good now China?' South Park creators issue mock apology
by andrepd on Tuesday October 08, 2019 @01:49PM
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Where do you even begin to pick apart a statement like this... The US is completely fucked with regards to racial tensions, it's a complete shithole in that respect, for the standard of a developed nation. Race permeates public consciousness to a degree not really seen anywhere in Western Europe. Until the 60s there was institutionalised discrimination for crying out loud. Even today there is a measured, objective disparity in: arrests, convictions, police brutality, not to mention job applications and other areas. Can you compare this to a country like Spain or the Netherlands?
"Least oppressed society in HISTORY", this reads like a Trump tweet. Sure is some egregious lack of self-awareness.
If you’re a female, it’s more difficult to be taken seriously or heard in meetings, and people constantly talk over you.
If you’re basically anything that’s not white, people will embarrassingly coddle or patronize you, if they’re not prejudicing you.
I never really thought about specific examples until I read this comment, but this is what came to mind.