Re:Ask HN/PG: Why are comments being paginated?
by flatline on Wednesday January 19, 2011 @12:13AM
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Ugh, I hope this does not happen, I hate the scroll-to-the-bottom-and-get-more thing. Particularly if the server is under heavy load already, you never know if there is more or if so how much, and it takes the scrollbar away from your mouse pointer once it's loaded another chunk due to the relative offset.
Re:Ask HN/PG: Why are comments being paginated?
by mnutt on Wednesday January 19, 2011 @04:49AM
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Maybe I'm missing something because I've never seen it before, but has anyone ever tried leaving blank space at the bottom of the first page relative to the total number of comments? It may work better on items of fixed length than comments, but even on comments it would at least make the scrolling a little less jumpy.
Re:Ask HN/PG: Why are comments being paginated?
by brianpan on Wednesday January 19, 2011 @01:35AM
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I'm confused by your reasons. With scroll for more, you would know if there is more- the end is the end, just like with pagination. And it's no worse than pagination in the "you don't know how much more" department, either. The pagination is a "More" link, it doesn't indicate how much is on the next page.
Re:Ask HN/PG: Why are comments being paginated?
by regularfry on Thursday January 20, 2011 @06:28AM
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One would think it would be relatively trivial for "More" to become "256 More" or similar...
Re:Ask HN/PG: Why are comments being paginated?
by marshray on Wednesday January 19, 2011 @12:22AM
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NOoooo!!! Anything but the Scrollbar of Sisyphus!
Re:Ask HN/PG: Why are comments being paginated?
by 1337p337 on Wednesday January 19, 2011 @03:13AM
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I'd not heard this term for it before, and it sums up the horror accurately. You have enriched my life.
The Scrollbar of Sisyphus breaks the back button (click "Back", browser remembers where you had scrolled to, can't go that far down, lands at the bottom, triggers second "page" of results) jumping to the bottom of the page, occasionally searching, and forces you to jump to the end of the page repeatedly to figure out where you were. It breaks nearly every UI expectation one has about scrolling (especially on a phone) and several that your browser has about caching.
Re:Ask HN/PG: Why are comments being paginated?
by redthrowaway on Wednesday January 19, 2011 @05:13AM
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Those problems you listed are implementation-specific, and not necessary conditions of the feature.
Re:Ask HN/PG: Why are comments being paginated?
by mambodog on Wednesday January 19, 2011 @04:00AM
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This still would prevent being able to CTRL/CMD-F for a particular term to see if anyone has mentioned it already, something I do a lot, and I imagine others do too.
Re:Ask HN/PG: Why are comments being paginated?
by redthrowaway on Wednesday January 19, 2011 @05:11AM
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This is true, but a little bit of js would take care of that.
Re:Ask HN/PG: Why are comments being paginated?
by antimatter15 on Tuesday January 18, 2011 @11:46PM
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Infinite scrolling screws with scrollbar behavior though :(
Re:Ask HN/PG: Why are comments being paginated?
by redthrowaway on Tuesday January 18, 2011 @11:52PM
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Not until you hit the bottom of the first "page", at which point you've resigned yourself to more content.
Re:Ask HN/PG: Why are comments being paginated?
by cincinnatus on Tuesday January 18, 2011 @10:57PM
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That would be the first instance of an ajaxy thing on HN I believe.
Re:Ask HN/PG: Why are comments being paginated?
by ianl on Tuesday January 18, 2011 @11:00PM
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The upvote/downvote on comments and stories uses ajax i believe.
Re:Ask HN/PG: Why are comments being paginated?
by requinot59 on Tuesday January 18, 2011 @11:12PM
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yes/no: it uses simple assignations to (new Image()).src.
I agree with OP; the current system is suboptimal, to say the least.