Why New York City Stopped Building Subways (2018)

Re:Why New York City Stopped Building Subways (2018) by atoav on Monday October 07, 2019 @12:10AM (#21177358)

I don’t buy the whole “it doesn’t matter because it is the government”-thing. In the two bigger european cities I lived in service quality and government efficiency were usually very interesting voter topics. And local governments who didn’t manage to increase or at least uphold service quality would usually end up losing in the future.

So the thing that doesn’t seem to work in the US is the “hold them accountable”-part. Maybe public transport quality just isn’t an issue the typical US voter considers their business?

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Re:Why New York City Stopped Building Subways (2018) by objektif on Monday October 07, 2019 @12:21AM (#21177445)

Its is not that it is not an issue. People in the US just do not vote. Compare the participation rates in your country vs the US. Majority of the people who vote are also uninformed I would say.

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Re:Why New York City Stopped Building Subways (2018) by atoav on Monday October 07, 2019 @12:42AM (#21177562)

But isn’t it a bit hypocritical to first not vote, then complain about how things are paning out and then conclude that things in the hands of governments never work?

Democracy lives from everybody’s attendance — if you stay at home you got no right to complain.

Sadly even a strong faith in the invisible hand-shaped market-god doesn’t change that, because quasi monopolies like railway infrastructure and the invisible hand-shaped market-god never mix as well as promised for some weird reason.

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Re:Why New York City Stopped Building Subways (2018) by rpeden on Monday October 07, 2019 @07:43AM (#21179653)

It's not necessarily hypocritical say all.

If someone abstains from voting because they find all the choices equally unqualified, I don't think that eliminates the person's right to complain nor does it diminish the validity of their complaints.

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Re:Why New York City Stopped Building Subways (2018) by ceejayoz on Monday October 07, 2019 @10:01AM (#21180864)

There are also practical considerations, like voting taking place on a work day.

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Re:Why New York City Stopped Building Subways (2018) by atoav on Tuesday October 08, 2019 @03:50PM (#21196422)

This is when you traditionally would vote invalid.

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