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Re:Eek, A Male by kenjackson on Tuesday January 18, 2011 @05:19PM (#2117644)
I find it interesting that I was downmodded on this. They ask for citations, I provided them. People wanted different kinds of data, I got data to address their points.

I don't think the problem is the citations or the data, but rather the viewpoint.

Lets be clear, you don't want citations or data. You want me to change my mind.

Re:Eek, A Male by alex_c on Tuesday January 18, 2011 @05:49PM (#2117750)
The downvoting's annoying. I don't agree with you, but you're presenting your argument calmly, clearly, and with supporting links - I think that's always valuable.
Re:Eek, A Male by callahad on Tuesday January 18, 2011 @06:35PM (#2117894)
Hear hear. Seriously, this is how discussions should work. Ken stated that there was data, I asked for it, and he delivered in spades. Sadly, his HN Karma is close to net-negative for this thread, while mine's shot up by a few tens of points. Things absolutely should not work that way.