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Re:The GM strike is really about the switch to electric cars by jdnenej on Saturday October 05, 2019 @05:18PM (#21168036)
There is unlimited meaningful work available that doesn't generate much real profit. You can easily perform music on the street which others enjoy but you won't make a lot of money. You can easily learn crafts to create things for your friends and family that they will appreciate but not pay for. You can easily get in to competitive sport without having to be part of the very top % who get paid for it.

We just need to realise that life happyness and meaningful work doesn't mean generating profits for some ceo.

Re:The GM strike is really about the switch to electric cars by pseudoramble on Saturday October 05, 2019 @05:45PM (#21168172)
I agree with you. I also feel the same way about people studying a "worthless" degree at a university. I think it should be much more heavily encouraged to let us develop deeper thinkers, artists, and others. We should learn to celebrate that not everything needs to be economically/financially driven.

> We just need to realise that life happyness and meaningful work doesn't mean generating profits for some ceo.

I believe that's GP's point in a nutshell. The thing is for the USA "just need to realize" is a major cultural shift. Not to say it's insurmountable by any means, but making people just realize something is very tricky IMO.

Re:The GM strike is really about the switch to electric cars by TYPE_FASTER on Saturday October 05, 2019 @08:16PM (#21168887)
> I think it should be much more heavily encouraged to let us develop deeper thinkers, artists, and others.

Totally agree. I think the combination of emphasizing on STEM for all, along with smaller colleges facing shrinking enrollments, will result in losses to society that won't be obvious/measurable.

Look at the list of notable Hampshire College alumni: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hampshire_College

They range from Ken Burns, to one of the founders of Stonyfield Yogurt, to a Debian contributor, along with many other musicians and other creators.

We need to keep this kind of educational freedom alive.

Re:The GM strike is really about the switch to electric cars by pnutjam on Saturday October 05, 2019 @06:24PM (#21168373)
People realize it, just not he old ones with the money.
Re:The GM strike is really about the switch to electric cars by plutonic on Saturday October 05, 2019 @07:24PM (#21168655)
This reminds me of Scott's post over at Slate Star Codex about Moloch [0]. The issue here isn't so much about _realizing_ the futility in pegging one's happiness to one's profitability. The issue is that for any one person to forgo this standard (s)he would be required to give up the status conferred on being a profit-generating American. This is against his/her interest. Thus, most Americans would rather work harder and be more productive/profitable and maintain their status, than attempt to achieve a more authentic happiness, and risk being perceived as a failure by others. To actually alter this standard would require changing the cultural norms around status and profitability either from the top-down, or from outside entirely.

[0] https://slatestarcodex.com/2014/07/30/meditations-on-moloch/

Re:The GM strike is really about the switch to electric cars by danaris on Sunday October 06, 2019 @11:24AM (#21172600)
That's a fairly privileged take on it.

Most Americans don't continue to work for status—they continue to work to eat.

Re:The GM strike is really about the switch to electric cars by plutonic on Sunday October 06, 2019 @04:53PM (#21175038)
> Most Americans don't continue to work for status—they continue to work to eat.

I was speaking with regards to American society under UBI, not the current day.

Re:The GM strike is really about the switch to electric cars by crooked-v on Saturday October 05, 2019 @07:15PM (#21168621)
Teaching in particular comes to mind as something that quite a lot of people might be more interested in if it didn't mean living off low teacher salaries.